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BARTOLOTTI
02-01-2003, 09:55 PM
Would one of you guys that has a picture or could please describe what this fly looks like post it or e mail it to me? Thanks. -glen
FYI- Those of you that post flies and pictures tie really well and pictures are great to have with post. Thanks for that.
Also, any other steelhead flies you like and wouldn't mind sharing?




maluce
02-02-2003, 06:55 AM
I don't think you'll get anything. The cop car is DD's baby and he ain't sharing. It's a client only fly. The guys that have fished with him pretty much all agree to honor that.

Mike

BARTOLOTTI
02-02-2003, 07:05 AM
Mike,
Thanks for the prep on a possible "hard landing". I know of DD, and my wife and I were just talking about fishing with him. We will have to wait until then...? Formerly being in the Marine Corps I can appreciate your reply.
Thank You,
Glen

fishingseaducer
02-02-2003, 09:35 AM
I have not seen DDs cop car.
The steelhead plugs out there by the same name
have a white body with a black head.
So maybe something with a white rabbit body black head
bead or cone.
Where I live in Oregone the cop car plug is #1 , and it
fishs in clear and off water.I am going to try some I will let you know.

crockett
02-02-2003, 04:49 PM
It's nothing special...drop me a line if you want the recipe.

-Crock

crockett
02-02-2003, 06:09 PM
Here's a cop car...make sure to fish it low and slow.:P

-Crock

Dan Reynolds
02-03-2003, 04:53 AM
Here is the authentic cop car ...straight from his site :+

Luv2flyfish
02-03-2003, 06:01 AM
LOL!:7 You have got to be kidding....Right?????

maluce
02-03-2003, 06:22 AM
I tried to warn ya.
Mike

Peter Pancho
02-03-2003, 07:54 AM
I've seen that pic before and could not stop laughing!
Cute though... PS, take away the weels and lights?

PEtEr ><>

"Follow Me and I will make you fishers of Men"
Matthew 4:19

BARTOLOTTI
02-03-2003, 09:51 AM
That's the first thing my wife said when she saw it. Well, Dennis has got to be proud of you all, and we hope to get out with Dennis soon, and get our "official badge". I had to Email Dennis so he could have a laugh. I tried to drop it, but I was "baited". I would bet that the knowlegde is what you pay for and the fly is Dennis's gift to you.
-glen ><>

papafsh
02-03-2003, 07:35 PM
You will both enjoy your time with DD, and you will see the real cop car!

I have seen it and can tell you that it's a simple fly that works well because of the way DD fishes it.

The trip my son and I made with DD was the best $, I believe I've spent, so far, on anything related to fly fishing.

LB

BARTOLOTTI
02-04-2003, 07:56 PM
LB,
If I were a trucker, I would say, "Ten-four". I think your post reflects an angler that has come full circle. It is most definately not the fly, but the technique. If fly-anglers old and new were to really read your last line and a half, it may save them a lot of time and fustration. Some may frown and not want to spend their money that way, but if you were to add up all the down time, lost time, wrong flies, wrong times, wrong spots, wrong methods...you may not be saving a whole lot (if any). Can't help but confess I learned from part, if not from all of the above. It's not a pretty road, and if the passion isn't there to begin with most won't make it to the end. I have to quit talking about it and book a trip. The angler that is just starting out and plans to spend say ten dollars to get outfitted, would be better off spending eight and giving the other two dollars to a guide like Dennis Dickson. And, before I get corrected on my dollar example...just add a couple of zeros.
><> Glen

flyrodf
02-05-2003, 02:03 PM
Great job on the picture!
gave me a great laugh.
I have been out with Dennis 3 times now, never caught anything but trout, even though I tried. Since then I have caught my first steelhead, and numerous humpy and chum salmon. It will take a person many years to learn the run timing/holding water/presentation methods/flies (the least important)needed to catch these larger fish, which you will learn in one or two trips with Dennis. He freely shares his knowledge, a rare quality.

flyrodf

Nailknot
02-06-2003, 10:57 PM
Not trying to bust any bubbles. saw a "cop car" in Michigan not sure if it was a Dickson deal or what:

Thread: white
Hook: 1/0-6
Tail: white marabou, long w/ several strands flashabou
Body: white chenille or crystal flash
Collar: tie in red top, blue bottom flahabou, beard style trimmed short
Head: Bead chain eye

Dunno if this is the infamous Dickson "Cop Car" but just a fly that a guy named the same. Never fished with Dennis myself, but I would think the fly isn't important, but presentation and confidence, and locating fish, reading water. Personally never thought of steelhead fishing as a specific fly game, but a game of reading water and swinging the fly deep. :dunno

crockett
02-07-2003, 12:48 AM
You sure you've never fished with Dennis? Your comments are right on and the pattern is definitely in the ballpark. It's not surprising that DD's influence has reached the Great Lakes, but good for him. I assure you that the reason his clients get into fish has very little to do with pattern selection. It does remind of a funny passage from one of Gierach's essays though. He goes into a local shop on a distant river and asks how the fishing has been. The shop owner simply replies, "there's been a good Adam's hatch coming off." Now trout are a different beast, but the point is that sometimes we think too much...about the wrong things. Just put a bug at the end of your line and fish, but fish it well.

-Crock

Surf_Candy
03-07-2003, 10:55 AM
sounds much like the Sarp Seducer

tail: crystal flash
body: braided flash
wings: Black over red marabou with a generous topping of blue/blue flashabou
eyes: bead chain

andrew
03-07-2003, 12:10 PM
Funny thing about your "Great Lakes" comment...I went home at Christmas (month earlier I fished with DD) and brought my travel rod and attempted to catch a St. Joseph River steelhead. First cast hooked into a 20" steelhead on a "Black Bart" (another pattern I purchased from DD).