WFF is hosting a party with the Angling Exploration Group Nov 11th -14th

[alpinetrout]

I've had problems with noise complaints at Deception State Park before. In fact, the jackass park ranger geek was threatening to send us to jail because we'd been drinking and obviously couldn't drive if we got kicked out. This was with a group of 5 people playing cards at a picnic table, so I can only imagine the trouble we'd cause with a huge group.

[Porter]

I have camped there several times over last 4 years and there have been several rowdy High School...College Parties....Hoopin and Hollerin into the late hours and they were never kicked out.....Now I don't doubt you and it probably has a lot to do with timing and who is working the park at the time.....One thing is there will probably be a Ranger or two there......Plus is at that time of the year I doubt there is many campers

just thinking out loud

[Old Man]

I'll throw two more spots into the fray. Rasar State Park. Close to Concrete and Baker lake.

Jim

[worldanglr]

Good idea for a location Porter, but I'd like to find a private campground we could rent out so we wouldn't bother anyone. We're also looking for a spot where there is a public campground close by that people can stay at who want to avoid the late night antics. I'm kinda leaning towards the Cowlitz.

[BOBLAWLESS]

I'll be there, of course.

The Cowlitz has a LOT going on at that time of year. The Kalama, the Elockoman just to name a few. My God this is world class fishing at this time of year! We would get fish there no doubt about it.

Not too bad a drive, really. NO passes, no mountains to speak of and there are some good lakes for the knowledgeable. No bridges for Jim to wet his pants about. :rofl:

Need a semi-remote campground of a private nature. A guy with little or no business at that time of year. Willing to be very FLEXIBLE given this chance to pick up some unexpected bucks. Kamp Kalama comes to mind and then there are all sorts of county jobs up the river, some private

We were good last year. Yes, we stayed up all night and hollered a lot. But so what? So what, I say.

Let's find this hungry dude and rent him out. I mean we don't require much.

Fish all you want.
SucK hoppes all you want.
Tell stories.
Act like an asshole.
Jump the fires.
Watch Ryan's stuff.
Meet old buddies.
Make new friends
Tie flies and learn new tricks.
Get some free stuff
Enjoy, enjoy, and enjoy.

Bob, the I'll come :beer2: and just sit and watch and try to keep that damn Macrowdyand his side kick Bart away from me. :beer2: :thumb:

Hope the two dudes from Spokane can make it. There should be a special bus for dry side dudes. They need to come on over and hydrate a bit before the bitter, drying winds of winter tear their skin off.

[Old Man]

Bob. No bridges except the Ship Canal Bridge. But there are ways around that one. All I have to do is take 405 to Renton and then down the back way to Centralia. I hate driving the freeways. Too many nuts out there. Besides you see more of the country going that way.

But now that we all know the dates it would be a good thing to know where.

Jim

[worldanglr]

I'm shooting for the Cowlitz region for quite a few different reasons. Bob suggested Kamp Kalama, anyone know of any other semi-remote private campgrounds anywhere in that region? Preferably somewhere that we can rent out the entire campground...

As an FYI, on Saturday night we'll be doing the official public screening of the video. Hopefully the weather cooperates, but I'll have a large tent for the viewing with a 70" projection screen. Should be fun :)

[BOBLAWLESS]

Kamp Kalama is far from semi-private, located as it is right off I-5. But it has a north end that is seldom used except in summer. They might go for it but we would have to be very upfront so they have no suprises. I don't know them.

But you build it Ryan, and we will come.

Bob, the Seems like there should definitely be something we would approve of and a free county job would probably not be patrolled at this time of year. :beer1:

[Curtis]

Any idea on what day the video will be shown? I probably wont be able to make the whole deal but would like to be there for the video. I am getting pretty excited!!!

[Bart]

Bob,

Don't worry, it will be fine. All we need to do is set some limits on discussions:

3 beer limit on politics;
6 beer limit on campfire ettiquite with ladies present;
9 beer limit on whether Oleander and Smolt really did discover a new planet.

Bart :thumb:

[worldanglr]

The video will be shown on Saturday night, since that has the best chance of the most people being there.

The party will be November 11th - 14th in the Cowlitz area, exact campground to be announced at a later date.

[Old Man]

Not to sure but if I make it will be 3 days and I hope there is enough beer for everybody else. Also what is the cost going to be. I remember once it was $35.00. So is that going to be what it is.

Jim

[Chris Scoones]

I'm going to break that question onto another thread. Please respond on the other thread if you're going. No iffy responses unless you're Old Man.

[Jerry Daschofsky]

Ok, any idea on where on the Cow it'll be? I know it sucks for bank fishing, but has lots of room, and liberal usage of alcohol/partying. But the Blue Creek Hatchery Campground. Can't reserve, but if someone gets their early enough, they can chord off an area. Plus, people can use it as a homebase and leave from there. Free to boot. Not sure how busy it'll be though, depends on the runs. LOL. I hate fishing there, but for get togethers, it's GREAT!

I won't post until I know. I want to come, just depends on a few things if I am able to show, and which days. Probably for sure on sat/sun. Depends on how my L&I case goes here shortly. Tired of going to these events recently (on a couple boards) when I can't fish. Like lots of foreplay, and no sex. LOL. But it's a river I despise to fish. So would be easier to attend then last years on the Hoh (which would literally kill me to be there and not fish lol).

[agent montana]

I will be attending the event..Don't know if I can make all four days..but I am damn sure going to try...I know you guys got kegs but I got access to Scuttlebutt Kegs as well if we need them..Just tell Rowdy to let me know!! But I am in!!!

[jabseattle]

Scuttlebutt rocks!!!!!1

[7FLY]

the skagit would have been good, had they not cut off the chums. We would still have dollies, to fish for and steelhead

[Jason]

Just curious how the location hunt is going and if there is anything that anyone can do to help.

And when a site is chosen I have a pretty good map program for my GPS that I can print areas out for people to have.

I will try to figure out how to email them between now and then and if I figure it out I can do that at well.

[worldanglr]

We have a spot chosen that is perfect, but there are some complications we're waiting to work out, we should know if we have the place by the 23rd...

[Jason]

That's great! :thumb:

Well my offer still stands for maps of the area.

[Old Man]

But has anybody came up with a site yet. And if it isn't in a park,what are the costs going to be. This old man would like to know as to what,where,and how much. Because the time for being there is getting closer.?????????????????

Jim

[Jason]

Well Jim, from what Ryan said they were supposed to find out on Saturday about a site. Let's hope that it is all figured out so we can get the ball rolling.

[Old Man]

That was for last saturday. And being that I'm on my last legs I have to know so I won't up and die before I get to go. It's hard enough to make plans and if they fall apart I have to go to my back up plan. I guess you can say this old man is a worry wart.

Jim

[Chris Stokesbary]

So I've never been on the Cowlitz, but have started doing my research.

For anyone that is familiar, is the stretch between boat launches at Barrier and Blue Creek mellow enough for a canoe?

...and if so, is that section fishy? My maps show sandbars and such that appear there is plenty of room to beach and fish along the way, but there's only so much you can get from a map, and I just won't have time to drive down there before hand. It could all be underwater for all I know.

If I need to ditch the canoe and bring pontoons I will!

[Jim Wallace]

I've only floated that section once in a driftboat. There are a couple of sections that I wouldn't want to run in a canoe. There is one rapids that is rated class II, but when we went over it at 6200cfs in the driftboat, it was no problem.
I have a 13' Sportspal aluminum canoe, lined with foam and with thick foam sponsons on the outsides, mounted just below the gunwales. It is virtually un-capsizeable in flat water, and I take it on slower rivers all the time. During our float, I kept asking myself, "Would I want to be attempting this in my canoe?" My answer was often a resounding "No Way!!"

The float from Blue Creek to Mission would be safer in a canoe, once you made it past the hairball 90 degree turn at Blue Creek. I would pull over above the fast water there and line it around the inside bend on the left side of the river. Or if you are really good, and have two paddlers, and big cajones, try to shoot the fast water for a wild ride and provide some entertainment for the combat gear-fishers when you flip the thing! There are some other spots you might want to walk/line the canoe thru, but I forget exactly where.

But if you have a good pontoon, why would you want to attempt it in a canoe? In an often swift-flowing river, it is better to have two oars in the water at once to better control the boat. In a canoe, you must be paddling the damn thing faster than the current to have any control, and in fast water you should have two experienced paddlers to execute the insanity!

Just my humble opinion, for what it's worth.

Myself, I plan to check the flows and current speed at the launches at Blue Creek and Mission, and then decide if I want to power upstream (with my trolling motor) a short ways, or as far as I can, just to get some uncrowded water where I can cast. With all the partiers lining up(?), I volunteer to do my bit to thin the crowd. The runs in front of and above both launches looked do-able for this, if you know what you're doing. I'll make my final decision on whether to proceed with this plan at the boatramp.

By the way, I will be bringing two paddles and an extra floatation vest, just in case. But mainly if anyone wants to go with me to check out any nearby lakes that may be open, for variety's sake.

Jimbo

[Chris Stokesbary]

Thanks for the detail! Exactly what I was hoping someone would know.

"But if you have a good pontoon, why would you want to attempt it in a canoe?"

Well at the time I didn't have a pontoon....but now I do. Bought a Buck's Southfork on Saturday. Now I'm dying to get it in the water and learn the ropes of this whole pontoon/river thing.

Either way after reading your post I'll be leaving the canoe at home.

[Jim Wallace]

Hey Stokes! Considering the Party/campsite location, you might want to bring your canoe after all, for Swofford Pond. As long as the wind isn't howling, its canoe-friendly and open year-round. I'm bringing mine.
Of course, your new pontoon would probably work there, too.

Swofford has trout, bass, perch, bluegill, and catfish. I fished there this Spring and caught a bunch of small (6"-10") largemouths and a few small perch on olive wooly buggers. Don't know what it is doing now, but it might be worth a go-out.

Jimbo