Reverse Spider - Pattern And Photo?

[willapabay]

Hello Everyone,

I Have Read Quite A Few Postings Here And Elsewhere About The Effectiveness Of Reverse Spider Flies..
I See Two Types Online , The Black Chenille Version And The Amherst Version. I Have Not Found A Good Site That Shows The Pattern Or How To Tie Step By Step.

What Patterns Are You Finding Work Best Here In Western Wa.
The Cowlitz River?

My Need Is , I Have Tied The Black Chenille And Flank Feather Version But To Be Honest It Never Looks All That Great.. Is The Chenille Suppose To Be Tapered Small On Barb End And Larger Towards The Eye? Or Is It Even All Across The Hook?the Feather Legging , Is The Length Of Feathers Longer In Front Than On Back?
I Am Not Sure What Has Been A Good Hook Size For Cutthroat And Chenille Size / Colors That Work.

As You Can See I Have Asked A Ton Of Qestions, I Am Sorry About That.. I Am Headed For The Cowlitz Monday Morning And If I Can Tie Some That Are Proportionally Correct I Will Try Them Out.

Sometimes The Simple Flies Seem To Give Me The Most Problem. Like Cooking, I Like To Have A Recipe To Go By.


Feel Free To Contact Me Via Email If You Want To Send A Pattern /photo Of Your Fly.

Thnaks, Ron On The Willapa.

[Ron Eagle Elk]

Ron, you got mail. REE

[Warren Perry]

To get the tapered body tie the chenille in mid shank, wrap it forward to the eye then back over itself to the bend of the hook whip finish and apply head cement.

Try black with Lady Amherst, orange and yellow with Golden pheasant tippet

PM me with your address and I will send a couple to you.

Warren

[FT]

willapabay,

The way Mike Kinney (the originator of the reverse spider) tie his is as follows: 1) tie in the mallard flank tail; 2) tie in the chenile at the tail tie in point; 3) wrap the chenile forward, double in back on itself over the front 1/4 of the body, and then wrap it forward again to the front of the body and tie it off so it has a sharp, pronounced flat end of the body (i.e. the front 1/4 of the body is actually composed of three layers of chenile); 4) tie in the mallard flank feather by the tip so the curve goes toward the hook eye; 5) wrap the mallard flank hackle and tie it off.

The reason for the triple thickness of the chenile on the front 1/4 of the body along with the sharp, flat end at the body tie off is to keep the mallard flank hackle from collapsing against the body and to force the mallard flank hackle to "puff out" toward the hook eye on the pauses when it is retrieved to give it more action.

Truthfully, all Mike did with the Reverse Spider was take Knudsen's Spider, make the front of the body thicker, and wrap the mallard flank hackle so it curves toward the hook eye.

As far as colors go, you can tie it in any color that strikes your fancy. Mike uses black 80%-90% of the time with yellow or florescent flame making up the difference.

[willapabay]

thanks for the information, it was a great help.. Ron at Willapabay

[Preston]

A while back I posted a description of the Reversed Spider with tying instructions and step-by-step photos. A search should enable you to pull it up.

[Preston]

Do a search for Reversed Spider and go to the entry for 3-12-2005.