Eggs with hot glue

[Charles Beaver]

What are you thoughts on egg patters with colored hot glue?
just started tying them so I havent fished them yet.:beer1:

[steve s]

I've used them quite a bit on the Rogue in southern Oregon. A little trick that helps set the glue is to dip them in cold water after applying the glue. I tie them with and without beads.

Good luck,

Steve S

[Charles Beaver]

what does the bead do?
acts like a litte flash?

[Ringlee]

I would go with beads! I like the fact that the hook is a little bit away from the hook. I have seen too many glo bugs in the gills from fish inhaling them. Are you doing single eggs on a Egg hook or something else? I do hot glue eggs on ESL and they do look really good. Just remember to spin you vise when doing it and the eggs come out looking pretty good.
Chris

[Charles Beaver]

I was planning on doing both single and multipul eggs.
What is ESL?

[Hywel]

I believe ESL may be an Egg Sucking Leech.

I really enjoy dressing a flea with a little hot glue egg.

http://www.rackelhanen.com/eng/10215.htm

Hywel

[steve s]

A bead will add a little bit of flash inside the egg and it will also help get the fly down and deep.

Steve S

[luckybalbowa]

I have started to use hot glue for egg patterns and on esl patterns this last year...

here are a few of my hints...

have a lighter handy to reheat the glue in order to form a better orb shape. I will reheat the glue and hold the hook in my hand and gyrate the hook in whatever manner in order to obtain a perfect sphere. Do not over heat the glue with your lighter though because the glue will get too runny to control

cold water will help cool the glue, but be sure to dip it in a glass, not under the tap because the force of the water will make your egg go oblong... I actually cool them with water, and then will stick them to cardboard in the freezer for a few minutes

unless you want a matte finish for your egg, do not touch the egg after the glue hardens... I like to have that clear look to my eggs, and in order to keep that clear look I coat the egg with clear nail polish

[Old Man]

I tried this one time and then quit. Now I just used Trout Beads. They come in the soft kind or the hard kind.

Jim

[chadk]

where do you find the soft kind?

[Jerry Daschofsky]

Chad, any dealer that carries Hareline can order it for you. They sell them in singles or cluster. Pretty neat. I'm thinking of ordering a few (they come on a strand actually). I will admit, it's nicing having a hard egg, since the dense weight will help the fly sink a bit faster. But have had great success with gooey bobs on the head of the fly (fish seem to hold onto them longer). May try these, since they are so much smaller. They are on a string, you cut them off and glue them to the hook. Could tie in front or back of it (say if you want to make a small spawning egg for example). I uploaded pics from harelines site (you can just go there and check them out too, show how they apply to hooks).

[chadk]

Thanks Jerry. I think I've seen those string clustered eggs at gear fishing shops. Are they all in clusters or can you get singles?

What do you like to use for the milt\white parts of the spawning egg? White marabou? I've been making a few spawning bead eggs with marabou and some with yarn strands.

[Jerry Daschofsky]

Actually, the one picture is deceiving. The one on the right is actually the singles. You just have to take a close look. The one on the left is the clusters. These are probably different then the ones in the gear shops. Those are usually scented while they're being poured. I'd assume these are just a soft plastic.

Yeah, I've been tying one for years that has been a killer for dollies while the salmon are spawning. With these, I may be varying them a little. How I normally tied them was on a smaller octopus hook. A tuft of white marabou for a tail. Then I'd make a chenille egg. Follow it up with a schlappen (or hen hackle) collar. Pretty simple. Has been a killer fly for the last 25 years. I've even painted beads and used those for the eggs (when I'd nymph them under a float when I was younger).

[Hywel]

Chad,

Actually having them in hand, the eggs (HareLine REC# 'Reel Egg Clusters') that SH69 alluded to are a soft plastic with the consistency of Gumi Bear candy.

As they're on a strand, the only challenge you may have is removing the residuals of the 'core' when you're ready to tie with them.

Compared to the hard plastic 'trout beads', they don't add a significant amount of weight to the fly either.

Hywel

[Jerry Daschofsky]

Hywel, that's what I had said above, guess I should've been more clear that they were an "unscented" soft plastic.

I wouldn't worry about the core (unless it bothers you). I know I have great success with the solid chenille eggs I make. If you tie them with an overhackle (that streams back over the egg) anyways, not really gonna matter to the fish. Well, at least not with the dollies and some steelhead I've caught with mine. Some of the peskier wild trout, you may have a problem (heard some of the ones in Alaska are pretty tricky, have no first hand knowledge of them to compare to)

[Old Man]

where do you find the soft kind?

I got it at Hook,Line,and Sinker in Arlington. But I understand that 'Yard was thinking of getting it at AATF.

Jim

[NorthernExposure]

Those hot glue things are such a pain in the ass to tie... if you are ever guiding and going through 10 or more eggs per day, your flies are either beads ahead of the hook, or two or three wraps of chenille. I've found, esp when sockeye are around, that two wraps of flourescent red chenille around a scud hook are as good or better than anything really technical. If the river has any glacial tint to it this seems to be even more noticeable. just my two cents... ~ steve

[chadk]

This weekend I did about 50 beads of various colors and sizes. Just heated the hook and pressed on the bead. The beads were all pre-drilled (troutbeads dot com), so when I put them on the hook, I positioned the hole to be inline with the hook shank. I could then slip in some marabou, make sure it was kinda snug, then add a drop of glue into the hole. Looked pretty good. Or on a few, I added some glow yarn in either like colors or contrasting colors. Anyway, it was easy, fast, hopefully effective if I ever get a chance to go try them...