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davidstrout
12-11-2006, 10:45 PM
Had a day off of work today (so I did the other way more enjoyable job)

Hope you like!




Willie Bodger
12-12-2006, 12:44 PM
Very nice. Some of those look like tube versions of some of Ken abrames flies. Now, what feathers do you use that give you such long flowing hackles?

Willie

davidstrout
12-12-2006, 05:57 PM
hey Willie...

Funny you should mention Kenny as he was definitely very influential in my saltwater tying when I first started...

Most of the long fibred feathers I use are Rhea, Ostrich, Albino Peacock or unidentified vintage/old millinery feathers.

David

Cameron Derbyshire
12-12-2006, 07:28 PM
David,

Nicely done! Let me know how you like the flies.

dominic7471
12-12-2006, 08:22 PM
damn those look good!

davidstrout
12-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Cameron? I figured it was u and then it was confirmed over @ feathers MC...

Didn't get your last name at the international

Did u get your NYC Permit yet?

We have a date for lakers on top @ Kensico in spring....

Thanks for the great flies too, very interesting (they came yesterday!)

all the best

david

cabezon
12-12-2006, 09:47 PM
Very, very nice. I've never tied tube flies, but I have heard folks talk of tying tube flies "in the round", symmetrically around the tube. I noticed on yours that you clearly have bilateral flies, with eyes on what you intend to be the sides. On a regular fly, the weight and drag of the hook shank help keep the fly oriented. Do these tube flies keep the orientation that you want when you fish them or do they roll on their sides on occasion?

Sweet ties,

Steve

davidstrout
12-12-2006, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the kind words

I tie these with the intention of them keeling properly by use of denser and longer materials on the "Top" portion with the sparser and shorter materials on the intended bottom area.

For the most part the hydrolics on the above keels the fly except on a real tight swing in very fast current (not that I find myself fishing in that kind of water for the most part

hope this made sense..

david

cabezon
12-13-2006, 09:24 AM
Hi David,

Thanks for the explanation. It makes perfect sense. I may have to add to my bag of tricks....

Steve

Willie Bodger
12-13-2006, 09:30 AM
hey Willie...

Funny you should mention Kenny as he was definitely very influential in my saltwater tying when I first started...

Most of the long fibred feathers I use are Rhea, Ostrich, Albino Peacock or unidentified vintage/old millinery feathers.

David

So, those long hackles are or aren't wrapped? You can wrap Rhea, right? But the Ostrich and Peacock stems are too thick, right?

davidstrout
12-13-2006, 11:15 AM
Well yes and no....

Yes ---OStrich and peacock are both wrappable one just has to prepare and use them with that in mind....

Peacocks (Especially the albino/oaten/cameo variety) have thin stems @ the eye and when soaked are splittable or foldable (amazingly so)..There was an amazing article by PAul Miller in Current isssue of Art of Angling Journal and step by step---not difficult @ all

OStrich can be soaked and stripped like rhea (helps to soak a bit longer than rhea which only really needs 20 minutes)

No --I definitely strip off fibers and clump tie--especially when I have used stems versus stripped-- the tie down of the thick stems (as u mentioned) is quite bulky so I will clump tie around this big bump to hide it....just make sure to leave enough room @ head of fly (I have made some monstrous flies with heads buuted up against eyes more times than I care to share)

An option for finding sources is to go to thrift stores and junk stores and look for old feathers on clothing/hats etc....you never know what you can find.....
egret/heron/macaws/vulture/eagle....

Hal Eckert
12-14-2006, 04:05 PM
Beautiful tubes much too nice too fish, I have a tube problem too, plus nymphs, clousers, speys etc it never ends particularly this time of year. You name the fly type and I have a problem.

:thumb: :beer2: :)

BG

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