Stingers

[seanengman]

Can somebody set me in the right direction on how to tie stingers. If anyone knows of an online tutorial that would be great. Tighter Lines.

[chadk]

Sorry to have to say this, but there have been many threads on this subject. Look a little deeper grasshopper ;)

[seanengman]

I saw the fireline thread, and know what to use, just don't know how to tie them in. I'll looker deeper ninja master. Thanks.

[seanengman]

I've got a good idea of what I need to do. Thank you great Kung Fu master may our paths cross again.

[freezerburn]

There are several ways to attach the stinger. Some things to consider are size of main hook (eye mainly) and size of fish. Start with a 6" - 8" piece of fireline and fold in half. Pass the loop through the eye of the trailer hook and then pass the hook through the loop. This is just a loop-to-loop connection. For added security I pass the hook point twice through the loop. You are ready to attach to the main hook.

I like to create a thread base on the main hook and then attach the stinger with the fireline near the bend of the hook. Strap the fireline to the hook with tight back to back wraps. Wrap to a point about 2 eye lengths behind the eye. Double over the loose end and repeat to the bend of the hook. Apply some Zap-A-Gap or Loctite and let dry. For added strength pass the fireline through the eye of the hook before you double over. Straight eye hook works well.

Hope this helps.

[seanengman]

Helps a bunch thanks.

[chadk]

I just take an larger old hook (or already broken at the bend) and use it for the front of the fly.

I take a section of fireline, mono, or whatever I'm using that day or for a specific pattern, and either do the loop to loop as mentioned above, more often than not, I simply cover the front hook in a base layer of thread, then take my 6 to 8 inches or whatever of fireline, thread it onto the eye of the trailer hook via 'loop to loop' so that I have the hook secured and equal tag ends hanging off. I lay those tag ends along the sides of the pre-wrapped front hook, so that there is about a hook lengh or slightly less of extra line passed the eye. I tie it down at the eye, then bend back the extra. I then lay down a thin strip of super glue, and follow it down with wraps fo thread from top to bottom. Let the glue dry for a minute or 2 and your ready to go.

For a bunny strip pattern, you can simply lay the un-cut strip from the stinger to the eye, and then make your cut. On some patterns I'll tie it down on the front, then lay it out over the stinger and tie it there before making the cut. Other times I start at the stinger first, tie it down, or poke a hole through the bunny strip with the hook then tie it down the on the front. Having a way to hold both hooks (like with 2 vises) can really help...

Not sure if that made sense...

[seanengman]

Thanks Chadk. I could help but give you a hard time. You're a good man.

[miyawaki]

On my poppers, I pass the two tag ends of a loop of 25lb. Maxima through the back side of an up-eye Gamakatsu Octopus and drop the loop down over the bend and tighten. It should look like a loop to loop handshake knot. I then tie the two pieces of maxima down to the shank then double back the two tag ends back and tie them down. You can give it a touch of super glue if you like.

Leland.

[Les Johnson]

Leland's method has always worked for me on any and all standard stingers.
For tubes I tie a hook with a stinger attached with monofilament or wire to form a two-hook gang with the rear hook usually being one size smaller than the lead hook. This works well when fishing for late-season offshore coho in the salt when they will sometime nip at a fly. I also use a two-hook rig on my tubes in southern waters when big bruisers like sailfish are jumping on 5-inch sardina patterns. Switching from a single to a two-hook rig is a snap.
Cheeers,
Les Johnson

[seanengman]

Got it. Sounds like the technique is basically the same. The only really differences is materials. Easy enough, I should be able to start tying up some of those monster marabous for the salmon in the Snake.