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Robert Evans
08-13-2007, 03:47 PM
I'm fairly new to Washigton and have heard great things about these high altitude lakes. I really want to take a trip up to do some trout fishing and am having a hard time finding info. Any ideas between I-90 and 2 would be great. Day hikes, overnights, weekends are all great. If you have maps I'd love to see them.
Thanks,
Rob
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Itchy Dog
08-13-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm just waiting for Kent to chime in- he's going to have lots of info for you.
Snake
08-13-2007, 04:37 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/outreach/fishing/highlake.htm
Doesn't really explain trails, but has some decent lake recommendations.
That info, along with a state atlas (like a DeLorme Gazetteer) should put you on the right track.
Or check out some hiking guide books (at REI or the library), find a trail into a lake, or pick an area to explore, and get on it.
Salmo_g
08-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Revans,
Where to begin. You've picked an area with scads and scads of lakes. I haven't done much hiking for fishing in that area however. I think you'll generally find that the best fishing is had in lakes that are not serviced by any main hiking trail. I can't show you my maps, and most of them don't cover the area you're interested in. My point still applies tho. Pick a lake that from looking at the map it appears you'd have to bushwhack to. Often there's a rough fisherman's trail leaving a main trail to your intended lake. Know how to use your map and compass, and a GPS is probably a good idea, but those weren't available when I was figuring out how to do this. Have fun and take DEET for the bugs.
Sg
Robert Evans
08-13-2007, 05:14 PM
I'm not very concerned about off trail navigation, i've done quite a bit of it, i would however like to make it easier on myself if possible. If there are any access points that anyone knows of or a specific book, i'd be interested to hear. i have checked out that WDFW website and it does have some useful info.
Maybe i'm nuts, but i figured there would be lots of info online on this subject. How about the Pacific Crest Trail, i would prefer one less used though?
nb_ken
08-13-2007, 05:32 PM
This book, Washington's Central Cascades Fishing Guide (http://www.amazon.com/Washingtons-Central-Cascades-Fishing-Guide/dp/0965211622/ref=sr_1_4/102-9145043-8447340?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187050876&sr=8-4) isn't a bad place to start. Pretty high level, but the author definately presumes that you're looking for a hiking resource.
From the Amazon Blurb:
"The definitive guide to stream and lake fishing within two hours drive of Seattle, covering the North Bend, Snoqualmie Pass, Alpine Lakes Wilderness, CleElum areas. This comprehensive guidebook tells where, how and when to fish the area in detail, covering more than 25 streams and 200 lakes, with 14 maps and 40 photos. Trout populations are described in depth, along with fishing techniques, access and hiking directions."
The link is for Amazon, but I think I got my copy at some mall bookstore.
Salmo_g
08-13-2007, 05:34 PM
If you'd like a north Cascades hike, try Ipsoot, Green, and Berdeen lakes. Drive to the end of Baker Lake, hike up the trail to the new bridge across the river, then back downstream a little ways on the east bank trail, then straight up to the ridge. It's 4,000' of elevation gain, and it's off trail. It stunningly beautiful. You'll find much solitude, because it's a brutal enough hike that most people won't go there. There are nice trout in each lake. What more could you ask for?
Sg
Snake
08-13-2007, 05:38 PM
How about the Pacific Crest Trail, i would prefer one less used though?
Yep, the PCT between Snoqualmie Pass and Stevens Pass gets within spittin' distance of a lot of high lakes.
Yep, it's crowded on weekends near the trailheads.
And yep, there is a ton of on-line info about access points in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness, and trail conditions, and all that, so I geuss you are nuts.
Seriously, if you want solid info about trail difficulty and distances, amount of crowding, and overall "wow" factor for an area reknowned for it's high lakes and excellent hiking, get a copy of "100 Hikes in Washington's Alpine Lakes" by Ira Spring.
It's not gonna tell you much about the fishing, though.
Neither am I. Are you nuts? :rofl:
Robert Evans
08-13-2007, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the info ken. I'm going to have to try that hike out. I appreciate all that have responded so far.
Evan Burck
08-13-2007, 07:21 PM
Know how to use your map and compass, but those weren't available when I was figuring out how to do this.
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Salmo_g
08-13-2007, 07:33 PM
OK Beersmith, ya' got me on poor sentence structure. It happens as I do little proof reading of my posts. I had map and compass. I did not have GPS. Better now? (insert smiley face)
Evan Burck
08-13-2007, 08:21 PM
OK Beersmith, ya' got me on poor sentence structure. It happens as I do little proof reading of my posts. I had map and compass. I did not have GPS. Better now? (insert smiley face)
sorry, it just made me chuckle to think that.... no harm meant. :D
Ford_Fenders
08-14-2007, 12:16 AM
Doesn't really explain trails, but has some decent lake recommendations.
That info, along with a state atlas (like a DeLorme Gazetteer) should put you on the right track.
Or check out some hiking guide books (at REI or the library), find a trail into a lake, or pick an area to explore, and get on it.
Definitely start with the DeLorme as you'll use it everywhere...great for getting "in range." Green Trails maps are a good way to drill down if you're hitting the Cascades (REI or any good outdoor shop). http://www.greentrailsmaps.com/
Have fun!
BTW, nice camping rig in your pic...:thumb:
tbuss
08-14-2007, 08:01 AM
Try Waptus lake. The trialhead is near Salmon la Sac campground. It is not a very tough hike in regards to elevation gain, but it is a long hike that can be done as a two day/one night. I did it a month ago and there were very few people on that trail. You will see a ton of cars at the trailhead, but they must go to other trails because I just didn't encounter many people on the Waptus lake trail. Just make sure on the hike out that you check your water a lot and fill up before the last creek. I made the mistake of thinking there was more water on the last several miles and ended up getting severely dehydrated. You will be happy with the size of fish in that lake. Oh and make sure to have some good mosquito repellent because there is a marshy area (it may be dried out by now) about halfway to the lake that was swarming with mosquitoes when I was there. The lake itself though was practically free of mosquitoes.
Tom
Robert Evans
08-14-2007, 08:17 AM
Waptus Lake sounds great, I think i'm going to give it a whirl. I'm waiting for a new rod which should arrive any day and then I'm off!
Brian Curtis
08-14-2007, 11:45 PM
salmo_g's advice is perfect. Pick out some lakes on the map and start exploring. You can't go wrong. Even if you don't catch any fish you'll have still experienced the fabulous setting. Because low numbers of fish are used, and stocking is often infrequent, the quality of fishing in any given lake can vary greatly from year to year. That means guide books don't necessarily do you all that much good. To me, the most fun is had by exploring someplace I know nothing about. The Hi-Lakers (http://hilakers.org/) and Trail Blazers (http://watrailblazers.org/) are a couple organizations (full disclosure: I belong to both) that have websites dedicated to high lake fishing in Washington.
Jason Rolfe
08-14-2007, 11:52 PM
Hey man,
There's a book called 100 hikes within 95 miles of Seattle, or something like that. You could pick it up at REI or a similar place. It has great information about basically that whole area between I90 and 2. You can just flip through it, find what looks like a good trail and lake, check the lake out online, and go.
So, that's a good way to get started I would think. Then you can jump off the beaten track from there.
Cheers,
Jason
Kent Lufkin
08-15-2007, 10:27 AM
Your question about best trails to fish mountain lakes is pretty broad and so it's tough to offer a precise answer. While there are lots of lakes in the Cascades that have fish, it covers a pretty vast area with some quite rugged terrain that makes getting to some of the more remote ones quite difficult if not downright impossible for the average guy.
Here's some practical considerations that you might want to address. What kind of shape are you in? How much backwoods experience do you have? How simple or difficult a hike do you want to do? How long do you plan to be gone? Do you want to take floatation or fish from shore? How much gear do you have? How heavy a pack are you comfortable carrying?
The answers to these will dictate which lakes might be best and which would be far beyond your physical condition, experience, and skill level.
Finding a dozen or two lakes that meet your criteria shouldn't be too hard. As already suggested, get some good maps and start gathering some kitchen table intelligence. For most Cascases hiking, avoid the Gazetteer and look for detailed topo maps from the USGS or GreenTrails or pick up a set of CDs from Topo! (I've found GreenTrails maps to be more up to date than the others.)
The advice on guidebooks is also good although the information in Fishing Washington's Central Cascades is a bit dated. Brian's advice on joining the HiLakers (http://www.hilakers.net) is also excellent. It just so happens that the monthly meeting is tonight, so visit the site and jot down directions. It's a teriffic group full of hiking and fishing experience. But don't join with the idea that people will give precise directions to their favorite lakes to a complete stranger. As you become a part of the group, you'll find that you'll get information back in proportion to the information you share.
As a starter destination, you might drive across the pass and up to Cooper Lake and park in the lot there. Take the relatively flat and easy trail west to Pete Lake. It follows the upper Cooper River and is quite beautiful with expansive views of the eastern Cascades.
K
Robert Evans
08-15-2007, 10:53 AM
I'll just get a USGS and go. As to backcountry experience, I am a wildlife biologist and have spent months at a time in places in remote South America so i'm not very worried. I will just be wading, i don't own a float tube (maybe a good purchase i don't know), which i assume puts my on smaller lakes. It's funny on this site it seems everyone thinks you're trying to steal there favorite spot. I'm not used to that idea in a fishing community, but i'll quiet my questions in the future. As always I appreciate the response. I wish i had known about the meeting before yesterday, but i guess there is always next month.
David Loy
08-15-2007, 11:13 AM
Bob - You might also consider the Olympics since you're already on that side of the Whulge. Many gorgeous hikes and waters, less traffic. Hit the fly shop and pick up Fly Fishing the Olympic Peninsula by Doug Rose. (Sshhh, big secret: Use the mountains as your shield against inclement weather when choosing destination.)
Canoe Rider
08-15-2007, 04:11 PM
A lot of people like to keep good high-country lakes secret. I usually share information freely unless I think the lake is too small to support pressure.
Thus I can't tell you about my favorite lake as it is quite small and shallow. I only go about once every two years...it does, however, have surprisingly big fish in it and a maintained trail as well. But it is a long and steep hike and since it is not as stunning as surrounding lakes it gets very few visitors.
What's my point you ask? Look for these types of lakes, ones that are overshadowed by others that are nearby, have better views, better access, etc. They will draw the typical hiker in and you can walk on past to a less visited, less stunning location that offers a better overall fishing experience.
Snake
08-15-2007, 09:01 PM
For most Cascases hiking, avoid the Gazetteer and look for detailed topo maps from the USGS or GreenTrails or pick up a set of CDs from Topo! (I've found GreenTrails maps to be more up to date than the others.)K
I wasn't suggesting he rely strictly on large-scale maps (ie, the Gazetteer) for full-on backcountry navigation, just that it's a good starting point.
I assumed he knew he should get a 15-minute quad for the area he wants to go into, for finer detail, since he didn't come off like a total wanker..
BTW, the bridge over the Waptus (just below the lake) is gone, so yer gonna have to wade, if you want to access the East side of the lake, where the better trails/camp spots are. Go further upstream to the horse ford, and you shouldn't have any problem wet-wading across.
For a REALLY good adventure, run up to Spade Lake from Waptus for a day-trip. Insane fishing, even without a float tube!!
Snake
08-15-2007, 09:17 PM
It's funny on this site it seems everyone thinks you're trying to steal there favorite spot.
I don't assume you are trying to "steal my secret spot".
I'm just not gonna give it to you.
Sorry if that offends you, or seems selfish.
Just the way it is.
Construct your own learning curve. It's a lot more satisfying that way.
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