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Phlybox
09-02-2007, 11:36 PM
After ten years of owning a shiny Regal vise and a grand or better in materials, and having arranged this assortment in a tyer-friendly bench, I have finally got the urge to actually tie. Not being the kid-around type with regard to my hobbies, I would value your recommendations on a book (or video) that will explain tying materials. Since I'm closer to Salt Lake than to saltwater fisheries, and since I'm really not that interested in warmwater species, I am content to limit my inquiry to those materials that are useful for pursuing trout.

Okay, okay...I'm a trout snob. There--I admitted it.

How stiff should a hackle barb be for a Palmer wrap? Should it be less stiff when used as a tail? And where on a neck or saddle does one find a stiff or supple hackle, anyway? How does one choose a good bag of goose biots, and what's the quickest way to determine whether the little rib will stick out or your segmentation will be smooth on a typical dry fly? (Just this evening, I figured out that some goose biots are, in my words, "right-handed" or "left-handed" depending on the notch location). Where did Z-lon come from, and how does it compare to antron, organza, poly-yarn, etc.? What are the practical differences between deer hair and elk hair, both at the bench and on the stream?

In other words, I'm not necessarily looking for a technical (as in technique-al) manual at this point, unless a book like the Benchside Reference covers materials thoroughly. Rather, I'm looking for something that will help me determine that microfibetts may be less buoyant than wood duck in a tail...this kind of thing. Preferably, this resource would cover age-old natural materials (with some history of improvements in genetic engineering, etc.) as well as ultra-modern artificial materials.

Incidentally, I'm one of those "outsiders" who defected to Idaho to become a trout bum and now I seek to mooch off of your state's online colloquium! But, for what it's worth, having grown up just north of Seattle, I remain loyal to my Mariners!

Thanks for your help, and congrats on having a better forum than Idaho has.




fredaevans
09-03-2007, 06:30 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Fly-Tiers-Benchside-Reference/dp/1571881263/ref=sr_1_2/103-7589053-2045423?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188826151&sr=8-2

Everything you need to know .... and much, much more!:thumb:

halcyon
09-03-2007, 08:42 AM
For books directed to information on fly tying materials and their use the following three volumes are a good place to look.
Fly-Tying Materials by Eric Leiser (out of print but still available at the ususal 2d hand book sites)
International Guide to Fly-Tying Materials by Barry Ord Clarke and Robert Spaight
Fly Tying Tools and Materials by Jacqueline Wakeford

Regards,

Stefan Elliott
09-03-2007, 03:37 PM
50 years behind the vice, with bob clouser and lefty kreh, best tying video ever

Philster
09-03-2007, 07:44 PM
Best thing I've seen on wrapping marabou is an Alec Jackson Video where he ties steelhead patterns. can't recall the name. Rentable at many shops.

Les Johnson
09-27-2007, 10:51 AM
"Fly-Tying Made Clear and Simple" by Skip Morris has a nice section in the front on tools and nice color photos of materials.
Les Johnson

traditionalist
10-06-2007, 09:10 PM
May be of interest to you;

http://www.mike-connor.homepage.t-online.de/Materials/materials.html

Trad