Skater design

#62
sopflyfisher, they don't make single hand rods that speycast well anymore in 7wt and up...maybe in glass. Everything I see is fast and therefore useless, except Burkie DAL's, old RPL's and Scott G's. Spey's will always be better with surface flies unless you're fishing small water. Better control, DT's are the key for both. Best single hand steelhead setup I've ever fished is an RPL 8100-3 with an old Cortland DT8, close to perfect in every way if you're looking to skate, wake or gurgle.
naturally, I'm going to say, "give glass a try"...My Steffen 8'6" 7/8 (more of an 8) matched up with Ambush is pure money for spey-style casting in tight quarters. Plus it works good enough for larger rivers. I am a little limited with the length and weight of tips I can throw, but I don't like throwing that crap on anything, so I don't (I rarely use tips anyway). That rod also handles a DT VERY well. But, I'll tell you this, there's nothing like fighting fish on glass....well, except perhaps on bamboo, but I'm too poor for that.
 
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ralfish

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#63
ok, let me clear some things up:

1. Waked bug, a fly fished under tension at the surface, ie you can see it.

2. Skated, not fished under direct tension, on the surface, the wind can blow it around, it skitters because the way currents grab the line and you can see it. Often moves upstream

3. Dry fly,seldomly under tension, usually dead drift, on the surface and you can see it

4. Hitched wet, anything hitched and fished under tension at the surface, because of the hitch its at the surface and you can see it, though sometimes just barely. Great method as a come back, really small( size 10 and smaller) often resluts in an aggressive attack when a player has been found.

5. Greased line presentation: A presentation method where the fly is presented sideways to the current and fish and through proper use of specific mends not fished under tension directly though you have control and feel to the fly. Very close to the surface, deliberatley not sunk deeply. Just because you are using a dry line, it is not necessarily a greased line presentation.

6. Dryline presentation, anything fished with a dry line. Can be used in the winter and used to present heavy irons at depth though not necessarily. Often confused as a greased line presentation.

7. Anything other method used for summer runs is retarded and when sunk intruders on skagit lines are used for wild summer runs a puppy dies ;)
 
#67
just got a dozen ska-oppers from a flyshop for the Clearwater. we are going skating this weekend. hope one of finds a player. they seem to have good hooks. will pinch the barb, tie one own and scare the piss out of myself trying to spey cast. mike w
 

JS

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#72
thats my green butt series of wakers, riffle them.
That top right bug is nasty! I have been hitching a lot this year, mostly with muddlers, and I have rolled several fish with no comeback.....even when I come back with a sunk hairwing....anyone else experience this? I have gone super small ob my hairwings, thrown the double hairbug setup, the whole 9. Three different times this has happened to me on the D, the only thing I haven't tried is hitching a hairwing; not sure why, I probably should give that a go next.
 

JesseC

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#73
Got lucky and landed my first skated steelhead last weekend. It wasn't a big fish, but probably in the top 3 in terms of memorable.

I was using a new echo 4 switch, which was a sweet little slow rod.

Full disclosure: was guided into the fish by Jim Kerr. I've been watching dry fly videos for years, but never had the confidence to stick with it when I tied them on. Now, it'll be really hard to switch to subsurface for a long long time.

Waking a fly to sighted steelhead in the summer and watching the take in slomo while feeling the stick........ forget that winter post I made. That was THE shit.
 

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#74
That top right bug is nasty! I have been hitching a lot this year, mostly with muddlers, and I have rolled several fish with no comeback.....even when I come back with a sunk hairwing....anyone else experience this? I have gone super small ob my hairwings, thrown the double hairbug setup, the whole 9. Three different times this has happened to me on the D, the only thing I haven't tried is hitching a hairwing; not sure why, I probably should give that a go next.
Two things you should try... is throwing the comeback fly a closer to 90 degree and letting a belly bring it through faster. Secondly give the fish a good rest. A real rest, like no casts for 10 whole minutes. Make a phone call, organize your fly box, get a head start on your taxes, anything to pass a little time and then start easing some casts back into the zone.
 
#75
Got lucky and landed my first skated steelhead last weekend. It wasn't a big fish, but probably in the top 3 in terms of memorable.

I was using a new echo 4 switch, which was a sweet little slow rod.

Full disclosure: was guided into the fish by Jim Kerr. I've been watching dry fly videos for years, but never had the confidence to stick with it when I tied them on. Now, it'll be really hard to switch to subsurface for a long long time.

Waking a fly to sighted steelhead in the summer and watching the take in slomo while feeling the stick........ forget that winter post I made. That was THE shit.

Thats awesome man. You look like a pretty nice guy too. I am surprised. :p