13 ft 8 wgt spey rod which one

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by shorthair15, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. shorthair15 New Member

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    im looking for a light wgt spey rod for steelhead in the winter and summer. i fish skagit lines in the winter and afs and scandi lines in the summer. need some advice on which one to try out. thanks ive been casting spey rods for a while so im not a beginner. i took a lesson from way yin and learned alot from aaron at river run anglers.
  2. Philster New Member

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    Really depends on your price range. $400 and under gets you a different answer than $450 to $650, which is a very different answer from "the sky's the limit". Echo, Beulah, and TFO all make very nice "affordable" rods. You want to try a Meiser Jr. test cast a TFO Deer Creek. You want a very versatile traditional feel try an Echo DH. I keep heading in the shorter direction, so I like the 12.5 Beulah 7/8. It's a little more expensive than the other two.

    I am going to try to go all next year with just my Beulah 11'6" 5/6/7 with my 10'6" 7/8 switch as backup since they like pretty much the same lines. I figure the best way to hook a big one is to have a rod just a little on the light side. At least that's how my life tends to go. I swing my CND skagit specialist 9wt (which is really a 10 wt) and I catch 6 pounders. I swing my sage 697-4xp and I catch fish a yard long :beathead:
  3. Marcel Member

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    Lots of great options for a 13' 8wt. I like sage's 8134 Zaxis and I really enjoy the TCX 7126. They call the 7126 a 7wt but it's closer to an 8wt, is short, very light and generates a ton of line speed.

    Happy shopping!
  4. shawn k Member

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    check out the Sage 7133 vxp its a great all around rod. An 8 wt is a better winter rod but is overkill for anything under 15 pounds Imho.
  5. Philster New Member

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    Those would be in the "sky's the limit" range :thumb: I don't play there now that I don't work in shops:beathead:
  6. Panhandle Active Member

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    I would seriously consider the Echo TR. My favorite rod. Very versatile, affordable, and powerful.
  7. Fred Krow Member

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    In the $350 range,,, two rods are outstanding.

    TFO Deer Creek 13ft 7/8wt, Airflo Scandi Compact 450gr, Rio Skagit Flight 500gr or Airflo Skagit Compact 510gr

    Echo TR 13ft 7wt,, the lines for this rod are in the spey 8wt range.

    Regards,
    FK
  8. Big Tuna Member

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    I would take a Saturday and drive north to Carnation and spend a day w/ Aaron Reimer. You can try a wide variety of rod and line combinations and get some expert advice to boot. There are a lot of guys who think they want to get into fishing spey rods w/out doing their due diligence on researching rod/line combinations. They end up selling their rods for cheap:) It's much easier to become a serviceable caster of single hand rods. Get some help from the outset and your learning curve will be shortened a bit and you'll end up w/ a rod that you like.
  9. Salmo_g Active Member

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    Shorthair15,

    I don't get it. You're not a beginner, so you presumably have some idea of the attributes you like in a rod. In that case, why would you be asking for advice on which rods to try out. We don't know what rod attributes you like other than you said you like a light weight one, which kinda' covers them all.

    In 8 wt I'm kinda' partial to the Buleah 12' 7" that Philster mentions, but I don't think I like it quite as much as the CND Solstice 13' 4" 7 wt. I've been using the latter a few seasons, and maybe that's why I prefer it, or it could be that I generally favor 7 wt over 8 wt Spey rods.

    Sg
  10. Philster New Member

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    I definitely am leaning to 7s for puget sound river use. I think those of us who started the two handed thing early didn't have many choices, with the lightest "serious" rod that gave you "all the advantages of two handed fishing" we could get being a 14 ft. 9 wt. Most of the water we actually fish didn't need 14 ft of graphite, and most of the fish we catch certainly don't need a 9 wt. Especially with the advent of easily available skagit lines and scandi heads, 7wts can carry any fly in my box, and make for a very pleasant day on the water.

    And on an aside just cuz you can cast, doesn't mean you have cast every rod out there. I don't want to test cast every rod out there. The rods I recommended are rods I have cast. There's a reason I didn't mention other Echo products. Let's say I'm partial to a GLX dredger, but won't spend that much money. I'd rather ask "what's closest in my price range" rather than cast every rod under $600 out there. I know and respect the opinion of certain folks on here. I figure they will save me some time in sifting through the chaff. I do get why the guy asked.
  11. garyl Member

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    If you are a "sky's the limit" guy, the helios 8136 is a great rod. Not quite as fast as a deathstar, but likes a good underhand cast and very light weight. Works well with a 525 -540 skagit and t-14 or scandi heads around 480 - 500. Also works with a 7/8 GPS if you are into longer bellies. A little spendy, but just depends on where you are coming from. If you ever plan on making it up for a DOTR with Aaron, shoot me a pm and you can give it a test drive. Otherwise, the Red Shed carries Orvis and I'm sure that they can arrange a loaner.

    Gary
  12. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    I still haven't found a single rod I like better than the Echo Dec Hogan 13' 3".
  13. Nooksack Mac Active Member

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    The CND 13' 4" Solstice, which I love, is a solid 7/8, comfortable with a 624 grain medium belly Beulah floater, and with Skagit lines of 495 to 550 grains. A 6 is too light for my technique, however, and I never understood the 6/7/8 rating.
  14. golfman65 Guest

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    If I had to get only one rod for spey it would be a 14' 8wt...thank god I don't though but that said...I've gone the short rod route and they are a pleasure to cast all day and you can get into some knarly area's..didn't think I would ever go big again....then I got a 14' 6/7 meiser and now a 8142 burkie...and the line control you have over your flies with a 14 ' rod alone is worth it...

    Not to mention how much fun they are now that they are so light weight...and the different lines that you can use effectively instead of fighting them....

    that said, for your application I would go with a 7wt rod...
  15. Fish Fungus Member

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    I agree with those above who stated that a eight is a bit much I fish a Echo Dec Hogan 14'6" 7 Weight with airflow delta spey line and it is a great combination. I have also fished this same line on a 8 weight Orvis Shooting Star and the main difference was the control in the wind otherwise the longer lighter combo was the one for me. I am partial to long belly lines and more traditional strokes but I am sure that the Echo would throw the skagit lines just fine. Good Luck