2 piece vs. 4 piece rods

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Billy McFly, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. Olive bugger Active Member

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    Well, I still like my 2 piece rods. I have one 4 piece rod, a Sage LL that I bought before some of your were walking around. It is ok, but I prefer my 2 piece rods. Since they are my rods, I guess that is ok with the world.
  2. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Orvis makes the Access 5wt. and 6wt. in two-piece.
  3. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I have a non crappy GL3 two piece. The reason I now have 4 piece rods is that they are easier to hide in my truck.
  4. GAT Active Member

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    I have no doubt the remaining 2 piece rods cast as well as they ever did. I believe the question was if a 4 piece rod casts as well as a 2 piece and my experience convinced me that yes they do.
  5. Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Sounds like some here think of 2-piece rods as a sort of gold standard, with 4-piece rods falling a bit short. Following that logic, seems to me you should really be holding out for a 1-piece rod instead.

    (Before you laugh and dismiss this as a rhetorical statement, over the years bamboo rods have occasionally been built in a 1-piece configuration. Yes, they require a long tube, but they're usually 6 or 7 feet long instead of the 9 foot rods we all take for granted as being 'normal' today. I've not cast a 1-piece cane rod personally, but know folks that have and who swear they're the best casting rod they've ever held.)

    K
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  6. rainbow My name is Mark Oberg

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    I have a 1 piece bamboo by kent he made some 7" great 3wt. I also think that the spigots on the Winston is as close as your going to get to one piece without having one. No tick, all love when presenting a fly.
  7. Dr Bob Member

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    Like others here, I have 2, 3, 4 and a travel rod (9ft, 5wt) that is either 5 or 7 pc. i like casting the 2 pc rods but i can't really say they cast better. They just feel like they have more action. I also like the feel of the 3 pc rods I have. Maybe it has something to do with no ferrule in the middle of the rod. However, i find myself accumulating more and more 4 pc rods due to the ease of transport.

    Dr Bob
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  8. zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I had a Sage guy ask me about 20 years ago why I was hung up on two piece rods. He said there was no difference in performance between two piece and multi-piece rods. Nowadays I have more multi-piece rods than two piece ones. For storage and packability my preference is multi-piece but in general I prefer two piece because "that's the way it's always been".
  9. Hem Member

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    I seem to prefer my two piece Xp's. Its unscientific but I feel like there is a subtle difference to my 4 pc. Sages,...plus used 2 piece rods are cheaper.
  10. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    A 7" 3wt. Must be a really little rod. Do you use a sewing bobbin as a reel.
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  11. Kyle Smith Active Member

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    Tom Morgan: rodsmiths.com
  12. troutdopemagic Active Member

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    4 piece all the way. There is no reason for anyone to ever buy a two piece rod in the 21st Century. 2 piece rods are not better.
  13. Olive bugger Active Member

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    I disagree. What if someone WANTS a 2 piece rod.

    I think the customer should have a choice. If you want to use a 4 piece rod, do so by all means. But don't tell me what I should do.
    But then again, the customer can vote with his wallet.
  14. Kyle Smith Active Member

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    I really like the idea of a 2-piece rod I can leave strung up with line and a reel in a case. Then when fishing time comes I just take it out of the case and put the rod together. Unfortunately my trunk doesn't fit a 55" tube so it would sit in my back seat. 3 and 4 piece rods live in my trunk most of the year.
  15. zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    When I was a kid bamboo rods came in two piece. Only way to get a 3 piece was break your rod. Why would someone want to relive what was a black period in their childhood and procure a multi-piece rod. Three, four or five sections might stir up "dust bunnies" of a person's past.

    Two is the right way, two is the manly way.
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  16. Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Noble sentiment, but the reality is that if the manufacturer decides there isn't a big enough market for 2-piece rods to make it worth his time and money to keep making them, then you don't get a choice, no matter how much you think you deserve one.

    K
  17. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    This is why all the older fly fishers have two piece rods. My 8wt and my 3wt and my 5wt are two piece rods and I do fish them. I also have a 4wt that is 2 piece.
  18. Olive bugger Active Member

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    That is when I vote with my wallet. I would bet a great steak dinner that I could find a very competent rod builder that would build me a very nice 2 piece rod for the price of some these commercial four piece rods.

    As far as fit and trunk space, if it don't fit, well use a 4 piece if that suits your need. It ain't rocket science you know. Most cars that I have seen in the US will allow a 2 piece rod to fit and most have directional signals that a lot of folks are not aware of. It is a matter of preference.
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  19. Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Absolutely! The only problem with your strategy to have someone wrap a 2-piece custom rod for you is the likelihood that over time, finding a 2-piece blank will become increasingly just as difficult as finding a 2-piece factory rod.

    K
  20. John Wallace Active Member

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    Grew up with 2pc and love two piece rods. But all in all, if the blank is built right. They cast about the same.