2009 Pink run

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by flyindaeye, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. Matt Burke Active Member

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    Kenmore
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    Jeffery and I were out yesterday at our fav humpy spot in the salt. That intermediate hadn't been out in two years and needed a stretch. It was the first time I tried that head on my VT2 8139-4. It and I were so freaking dialed in even Jeff was amazed. 4 years ago was amazing. Everybody on the beach got to justify their expensive habit to spouses. 2 years ago I had nil in the salt. It will be interesting to see what happens this year. I wont fish for those guys in the river anymore.
  2. KerryS Ignored Member

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    Sedro Woolley, WA, USA.
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    I develolped my dislike of humps while gill netting the sound. Nice fish for sieners but they suck for cobwebbers. Damn things are the laziest fish in the water. Swim up to the net and just sit there. To get the damn things to gill you got to run the corks all night long and scare 'em into the net. Any money you make off of them is used up by all the fuel burned.
  3. Jamie Wilson Active Member

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    Arlington WA
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    That's the Real McCoy. Some kid caught it the last time we had the humpy run. Pretty gnarly!
    I think if you catch and release them and handle them right they are fun to catch. I really don't eat much fish so the table fare really isn't an issue for me. I would catch and eat a hatchery steelhead but that's not an issue either cause I never catch them. I gotta stick with those lower on the food chain.
  4. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    Kitsap Peninsula
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    Maybe they should be called mutants. I can't wait to catch one or a few of my own. I guess to really see them all humped out you have to wait until the humpies have humped well up river on their reds, right?
  5. Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

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    Kirkland, Washington
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    4 years ago was amazing, we were taking kids out in a dingy and limiting them out in an hour. nothing like the look on an 8 year old's face when they catch not only one salmon but 4.

    2 years ago due to the cold weather and rain in August and early September the pinks didn't stage like they normally do and my usual salty haunts were spartan at best. However there were fish at Thomas's Eddy the when the Snohomish opened on August 15th and I caught several dime bright fish with almost no hump, they even still had scales, on Sept 1 at the Ben Howard boat launch. Very weird year 2007 was.
  6. salt dog card shark

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    Edmonds WA / Mazama
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    WDFW
    ....
    "A bright spot for Puget Sound this year is the pink salmon run. More than 5.1 million pink salmon are expected back to Puget Sound streams this summer, nearly 2 million more fish than forecasted in 2007. "
    OMG
  7. Matt Burke Active Member

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    Kenmore
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    That would be nice to see.
  8. Eric Tarcha gear whore

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    Seattle, WA
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    yes and increased numbers of coastal coho runs as well...
  9. Greg Armstrong Active Member

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    Pugetropolis
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    Please don't ever do this. If you aren't going to retain them legally and eat them release them instead and let them spawn so we and those who follow us in future generations can enjoy this relatively healthy (one of the few native fisheries we have left ) fishery... Any wild native fish we are privileged to come across deserves more respect than this.
    Thanks for re-thinking this.
  10. salt dog card shark

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    I*ro*ny (noun). A literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what a speaker or writer says and what he or she means, or what is generally understood by the audience, in a humorous or poignant and extremely improbable way.

    Greg, I was being ironical. For the literalist: don't keep pink salmon if caught in fresh water and think that they will be good table fare. :beathead:
  11. DimeBrite MA-9 Beach Stalker

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    Marine Area 9
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    Save the Pinks from Salt Dog's garden!!!
  12. Stonefish Triploid and Humpy Hater

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    Pipers Creek
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    I'd trade every one of those humpies for kick ass silver fishing this summer. I think I read just under 600K predicted for this year. I'd like to see a repeat of 2001. ;)
  13. Matt Burke Active Member

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    They ran in pods up river past us, on their way up to Sylvana.
  14. yellowlab Active Member

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    In a van... down by the river, WA
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    March 03, 2009
    Contact: Pat Pattillo, (360) 902-2705



    Strong return of Columbia River coho,
    Puget Sound pink salmon projected



    OLYMPIA – A return of more than one million Columbia River coho salmon – the largest run since 2001 – is expected to brighten fishing prospects this year from the Washington coast to the Upper Columbia River.

    Salmon forecasts also show strong coho runs to many of Washington’s other coastal rivers this year, a flood of pink salmon to Puget Sound and improved hatchery fall chinook returns to the Columbia River.

    Those and other preseason salmon forecasts developed by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and treaty Indian tribes, were released today at a public meeting in Olympia.

    Forecasts for chinook, coho, sockeye, pink and chum salmon mark the starting point for developing 2009 salmon-fishing seasons in Puget Sound, the Columbia River and Washington coastal areas. Fishery managers have scheduled a series of public meetings through March before finalizing fishing seasons in early April.

    While several salmon runs are up this year, fishery managers still face a number of challenges in crafting fisheries that meet conservation goals for weak salmon stocks, said Phil Anderson, WDFW’s interim director.

    "Conservation of wild fish will continue to be our top priority," Anderson said. “We will work hard with tribal co-managers and our constituents to create fishing opportunities for hatchery fish while ensuring that we are successful in meeting conservation objectives for wild fish populations.”

    One constraining stock this year is the Bonneville Pool hatchery fall chinook run, a major contributor to Washington’s coastal fisheries. Although the overall return of Columbia River fall chinook is forecasted to be higher than last year, catch quotas for chinook in the river and the ocean will likely be low because of the poor Bonneville Pool return and restrictions needed to protect wild salmon listed under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

    While salmon forecasts are up overall in the Columbia River, coho and chinook returns to Puget Sound are expected to be slightly down this year.

    A few individual Puget Sound coho stocks, including the Skagit and Stillaguamish, are expected to return at low levels and will require additional protective measures this summer, said Pat Pattillo, salmon policy coordinator for WDFW. The overall summer/fall chinook forecast for Puget Sound, where wild chinook salmon are listed for protection under the federal ESA, is 222,000 fish, a slight decrease from last year’s forecast.

    “It’s important that we continue working to recover and protect wild salmon populations in Puget Sound,” Pattillo said. “One management tool we can use that helps with those recovery efforts and allows us to provide meaningful recreational fishing opportunities is mark-selective fisheries.”

    In the last two years, WDFW has added several recreational mark-selective fisheries for hatchery chinook in Puget Sound. These fisheries allow anglers to catch and keep abundant hatchery salmon – marked with a missing adipose fin - but require that they release wild salmon.

    Pattillo said consideration of additional mark-selective fisheries for hatchery chinook in Puget Sound, as well as in the ocean, will be on the agenda during this year’s North of Falcon meetings.

    A bright spot for Puget Sound this year is the pink salmon run. More than 5.1 million pink salmon are expected back to Puget Sound streams this summer, nearly 2 million more fish than forecasted in 2007. The smallest of the Pacific salmon species, the majority of pink salmon return to Washington’s waters only in odd-numbered years.

    Another strong fall chum salmon return also is forecasted for Hood Canal and other areas of Puget Sound, where the run is expected to total nearly 915,000 fish. But a Lake Washington sockeye fishery is unlikely this year. The sockeye forecast is about 20,000, well below the minimum return of 350,000 sockeye needed to consider opening a recreational fishery in the lake.

    Meanwhile, coho returns to several coastal rivers, including the Hoh and Quillayute, are expected to be up this year, Pattillo said.

    State, tribal and federal fishery managers will meet March 8-13 in SeaTac with the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC) to develop options for this year’s commercial and recreational ocean chinook and coho salmon fisheries. The PFMC establishes fishing seasons in ocean waters off the Pacific Coast.

    Seven additional public meetings have been scheduled in March to discuss regional fisheries issues. Input from these regional discussions will be considered as the season-setting process moves into the “North of Falcon” and PFMC meetings, which will determine the final 2009 salmon seasons. The meetings are set for:


    March 4 – Grays Harbor fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-8 p.m., Montesano City Hall, 112 N. Main St., Montesano.

    March 5 – Willapa Bay fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-8 p.m., Raymond Elks Lodge, 326 Third St., Raymond.

    March 11 – Puget Sound commercial fisheries discussion, 10 a.m.-noon, WDFW Mill Creek Office, 16018 Mill Creek Blvd., Mill Creek.

    March 11 – Puget Sound recreational fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-8 p.m., WDFW Mill Creek Office, 16018 Mill Creek Blvd., Mill Creek.

    March 16 – Columbia River fisheries discussion, 9 a.m.-3 p.m., Vancouver Water Resources Education Center, 4600 S.E. Columbia Way, Vancouver, Wash.

    March 19 – Final Grays Harbor and Willapa Bay fisheries meeting, 9 a.m.-5 p.m., Room 172 of the Natural Resources Building, 1111 Washington St. S.E., Olympia.

    March 19 – North of Falcon salmon fisheries discussion, 6 p.m.-9 p.m. Benton PUD, 2721 W. 10th Ave., Kennewick.
    Two public North of Falcon meetings, which involve planning fishing seasons for Washington’s waters, including Puget Sound, also will take place in March. The first meeting is scheduled March 17 at the Lacey Community Center, and the second meeting is scheduled March 31 at the Lynwood Embassy Suites. Both meetings will begin at 9 a.m.

    The PFMC is expected to adopt the final ocean fishing seasons and harvest levels at its April 4-9 meeting in Millbrae, Calif. The 2009 salmon fisheries package for Washington’s inside waters will be completed by the state and tribal co-managers during the PFMC’s April meeting.

    Preseason salmon forecasts, proposed fishing options and details on upcoming meetings will be posted as they become available on WDFW’s North of Falcon website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/fish/northfalcon/.
  15. Steve Saville Active Member

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    The run is predicted to be 60% + larger than two years ago. The Northern areas are said to be getting much larger runs but in the South areas like the Puyallup they are supposed to be smaller. I found the 2007 don't think they really have a handle on it so much as that they are hopeful. Regardless, they make great beach fishing quest. Don'tfeel bad. I've already tied two dozen of my secret flies in anticipation.
  16. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    Mill Creek, WA
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    Oh man this is gonna be FUN :D :D :D
  17. Matt Burke Active Member

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    Kenmore
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    Man I hope so, but I'll believe it when I live it.
  18. koolminx Member

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    Gorst, Washington
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    OK guy's, I've been fishing most of my life but this is my first time attempting to land some Salmon in the salt water by Fly.

    Please help a poor bastage out and tell me exactly what to do in order to catch a couple!

    I have several fly rods, Some from England I used on their lakes and Lochs, but never for this.

    I am having a hard time thinking I can land a 9 or 10 lb salmon on a floating leader that's only 2 lb test for the first 12 to 14 inches, and I'm used to using size 18 and 20 hooks on my flies, sometimes size 22 without a friggin eyelet to tie to...


    So tell me what type rod to grab, what type line, what type leader, what type fly and where the heck to go :) :)

    I'm a 'weirgin' that needs a kick in the arse to get his fly career going! I'm also living in Gorst right near a lot of nothing....


    Thanks!

    Gary
  19. Banzai FFing and VWs...Bugs & Bugs

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    Quick hint. Hit Lion's Park in East Bremerton, outgoing tide, 2hrs past the top of the flood and 2 hrs each side of the bottom of the ebb. Gear: 4-6 wt rod, floating line, 9' tapered leader, size 14 to size 8 wet flies (shrimp and streamers or buggers) fish the seams. Start your casts BEFORE you step in the water. Depth: ankle deep to neck deep. Watch for surface sippers. PM me and maybe we can get together.
  20. koolminx Member

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    Gorst, Washington
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    Awesome!

    I have NO CLUE what most of what you said means, like "shrimp and streamers or buggers and fish in the Seams..." AND finally I think a surface sipper is a snorkling salmon wandering across the top just eating random flying stuff?

    PM coming.