Turkeys

#16
Brent Comer said:
I'll be out for my first time this year. I'm going with a buddy with some experience. Is there any special Turkey hunting etiquette I should know about?
don't shoot anybody and don't stalk a gobbling turkey...oh and don't lowhole anyone either:thumb:
seriously stalking a turkey is bad news, illegal in some states, because people get shot. the hunter who is doing the gobbling if thats the case, sees something move and shoots. i personally know 2 people who got shot in new york turkey hunting(both at the same time when a hunter came upon one of their decoys and shot it, and them at the same time), and one old man who shot somebody. none of the victims were killed or seriously injured for that matter, but turkey hunting can be a dangerous sport.
Matt...i would think there's enough land in the entiat that if you hiked away from the road for a mile or so, you'd leave most of the other hunters and find some undisturbed turkeys. just a guess...never hunted turkeys there before.
 
#18
Josh Benjamin said:
Matt...i would think there's enough land in the entiat that if you hiked away from the road for a mile or so, you'd leave most of the other hunters and find some undisturbed turkeys. just a guess...never hunted turkeys there before.
And I drove that rode up a ways, but not to the falls. Serious 4wheel, even when dry. Saw lots of Varmint too. There is a rumor there are fish above the falls, if your rig makes it, but I don’t know. Instead of getting to it at the mouth, I was thinking of climbing the ridge from the west side, starting at the tribes and then down to the mouth. I’m not giving away anyone’s favorite hole, am I? I’d hate for that kind of crap to bleed over onto this forum. Hiking away from the rest of the pack sounds like a hell of an idea, with about thirty pounds of overnight crap. Maybe a rod and plenty of ammo. In case I get bored and hunt cans. Americans, Mexicans, Pakistanicans, etc.
 
#19
Roper, Josh, Matt: Thanks for the tips. I can see where turkey hunting could be a dangerous endeavor.

ps: Roper, it's beginning to sound like I should wear my upland bird vest. :D
 

Roper

Idiot Savant
#20
Well, I wouldn't do that, but many folks don't think about a bandana looking like a big red turkey snood, blue also...and the snood is the X ring for turkey hunters...:eek:
 

Itchy Dog

Some call me Kirk Werner
#21
If your vest doesn't have an orange flag attached that you can fly after you've made your kill (or as you're leaving the woods) get a piece of hunter orange and make a flag. Turkey hunting is no more dangerous than any other sort of hunting as long as you use your head. It's always "the other guy" you have to be concerned with. Like Josh said- don't stalk a gobbler. Call and stay where you are. He'll come to you (they're not always in a hurry if they're with some hens already). If, after a long time of calling you think he won't come to you, move to another place. He'll come to exactly where you WERE before you moved! Had it happen. Patience is the key.
 

Itchy Dog

Some call me Kirk Werner
#23
Brent,

Also make sure when you set up that you're comfortable and have a good seated position to shoot from, with your back against a tree or bush. If you have time, place some brush in front of you as a small ground blind. Once you've started calling, have your gun at the ready. Once you can see the birds you can bet that they will see even the slightest movement if you're reaching for your gun or fussing around with your face mask, etc. When that bird comes into view you'll see why this sport is so addicting! Good luck and safe hunting.
 
#24
Turkey hunting can be pretty dangerous to say the least. Two of my buddies were shot in 2002 while hunting, and then to make things worse the shooters left the scene. I always try to lean against a tree that's wide to protect my torso from someone that may come in from behind and try shooting at either a real bird or my decoys. The only reason why my friend Rick is still alive is because the tree he was sitting in front of stopped most of the 00 bucksot the morons were using.
http://www.dextermaine.org/news/031803_2.html
 

Itchy Dog

Some call me Kirk Werner
#25
There are morons everywhere- they can't be avoided completely, that's for sure. This happens everywhere, no matter what game you persue. Why they were shooting 00 buck is beyond me, although I must say I've never understood morons. Glad those guys got caught anyway.
 
#26
To make matters worse for the guys who shot my friend was the fact they shot an off-duty Marine Patrol Officer, so the judge threw the book at them. I haven't thoroughly read the regs yet for Washington, but it's illegal in Maine to be turkey hunting with any shot larger than #4.
 

Itchy Dog

Some call me Kirk Werner
#27
There's nothing in the regs (that I can find anyway) that says shooting upland game with shot larger than #4 is illegal, but something like buckshot would obviously be a poor choice for many reasons. Turkey loads are generally based on heavy copper-plated 4, 5 & 6 shot.
 
#28
When I guided/hunted turkeys in Maine I always used 3" shells with #6 shot and had no problem killing birds at 40-50 yards, but it was always nice when they'd come strutting up to the decoys.:D
 
#29
The 2 guys i know that got shot in new york were sitting so the shooter was forward a ways from the caller, with a decoy in front of the shooter. well this guy came walking up over the top of a little hill and saw the decoy and shot at it. he hit the shooter in one side of his face and the caller in the other side of the face. they all walked away from it, actually all 3 walked out of the woods together. how they did that without beating that guy i'll never know. the guy who did the shooting was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. the 1 hunter who was shot was an off-duty cop in a small upstate new york town.
the guy i knew who shot somebody turkey hunting was an old guy who'd been turkey hunting and everything else hunting his whole life. he was calling in a bird and shot at movement in some brush thinking it was the bird he was calling in. the guy was not killed or seriously injured, just kind of peppered. nobody really knows what got into him. he was kind of a local legend in the hunting world back there. stuff can happen to anyone i guess.
Matt...if i said something giving away your secret spot or something, i apologize. i was not being specific when i said "get away from the road". i've never even been in the entiat, not even sure what road i would have been talking about. if i stated the obvious, well then i guess i didn't need to say anything.
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