3 wt rods and misc inquiry.

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  1. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I have yet to come across a bear when I've been fishing. I see Elk when I'm out riding my ATV even a few Moose off in the distance. But no bears of any kind. Hell I haven't even seen a snake but one time since I've lived here, and it wasn't even rattlesnake.
     
  2. Cedar

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    I really like my 7'6" superfine touch paired with a CFO for most applications. I use it for all of the Snoqualmie Forks and tribs and any other small water that I come across. It isn't a fast rods by any means but I can still throw enough line when needed and the CFO balances with it nearly perfectly. I use a 8'6" or 9' (can't remember) CT that works great for alpine lakes. I also have an old glass Scott Powr ply (that i think is from the 70's or 80's) that it pretty fun but when it comes to casting in really tight places I just don't feel that I can make the spot on casts with it. I think what I'm trying to say is that you don't need one 3 weight, you need at least three.
     
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  3. Porter

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    Yeah I agree with above statement, but now I'm convinced I want to get one of the new orvis click and pawl reels (2013 model). Any word on their availability yet? There has been no reply on other thread or else I missed it. Seems like a perfect small streamer reel (MHO)
     
  4. IveofIone

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    Porter, I was one of the first to order the new Battenkill click pawl which I heard was going to be available on March 25 or 28. It didn't happen and the Orvis shop that I ordered from called back east to find out what the deal was. Latest estimate was May 1. Stay tuned, looks like it will be awhile yet.

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    Thanks Ive. Soon as they are in I'm making the trip to bellevue to check out (if they have them). Please update, much appreciated!
     
  6. speyfisher

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    Have a look at these. http://www.mudhole.com/docs/versi10.html I have the Versitex IGF704 IM6 and although they claim it is a fast action 4 wt, I find it to be a rather slow action 3wt! This was the first light weight rod I had ever cast. And, at the time, the slowest rod I had ever cast. It turned out to be a real jewel for working small water. I only wish it were a 3 or 4 piece. My vote definitely goes to the lighter, shorter, slower rods.

    Criteria as follows:
    1. Able to cast anything from small dry fly on at least a 9.5' leader tapering to a 7x tippet with minimum line out of the tip, cast a bead head nymph with spit shot and a yarn indicator, a weighted egg fly, or muddler minnow a respectable distance, sometimes with minimum back cast room.
    2. Soft enough to handle 7x tippet, but enough authority fight a 15" trout in moving water,,,most of the time.
    3. Accuracy & delicacy rules over distance.
    4. Relaxing to cast all day long.
     
  7. rainbow

    rainbow My name is Mark Oberg

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    I have a lot of nice rod's but. When I was in airway heights last year I didn't have the right one for crab creak till last year. A sage LL 3wt 5"6', What a perfect rod for that creek. for technical fishing at it's best. Pair it with a hardy two screw fly weight. Haven't used that rod any were else, I like to buy my rod's for water's I fish. I have fished a lot of water's and is my excuse for being a gear whore.

    p.s. What a freaking fantastic rod it is, never seen one. Had to have it, and thanks to the gentleman on this forum that sold me that last year.
     
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  8. Cedar

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    I like to buy rods for specific water too but I'm having a hard time convincing my wife that I need 20+ rods
     
  9. wichaka

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    I run Redington Drift reels on my 2 & 3 weight rods, and they balance very well.

    I had a Drift 3/4 on my Sage 379 LL, and thought it was a tad too heavy, didn't balance well. Switched it to the Drift 2/3, and it feels so much better in the hand.

    One can go overboard with the ultra-light thing, but the rod has to balance well or it just won't feel right...to me anyway.
     
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    Lugan Joe Streamer

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    Richard Olmstead BigDog

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    Lugan gave me the same advice a couple summers back when I was looking for a small stream rod. I picked up the Cabelas 4 wt 7'0" and have been very pleased with it. I have a couple other small, light graphite rods for small streams, but neither are as fun as this one.
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  12. Stew McLeod

    Stew McLeod aka BigMac

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    I am glad to hear the Redington Drift 2/3 reel balances well. I ordered one from Creekside to pair up with Redington 2wt I just bought off a board member.

    Now my opinion on 3wts.

    I only have two at the moment - a St Croix Avid and a Sage FLi. The Avid is a joy to cast and my go-to rod for streams around here - price was right too. The FLi is a bit stiff for me and when I use it I tend to run it with a 4wt line. I just scored a Sage LL 3wt and it should show up any day - I hope it lives up the to hype :)

    Stew
     
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    rainbow My name is Mark Oberg

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    Whats the length on the LL. Once you go LL you wont go back.
     
  14. Stew McLeod

    Stew McLeod aka BigMac

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    It is the 379 model (3 piece) ... I also have a bid on a 389 right now. More money than brains lately I guess.

    Stew
     
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    rainbow My name is Mark Oberg

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    Your going to love them for the upcoming hatches.
     
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    I just finished building a two-piece 3-weight rod on a Thomas & Thomas LPS 863 blank. The LPS was a series that T&T made about five years ago, supposedly a little slower than their usual rocket launchers, but still a fast flinger of tight loops. With a DT3F, it maxed out at 73 feet, leader included. If anything, it's better with a DT4F, which maxed at 81 feet. I think it will see a lot of use on spring creeks and lakes on windless days.
     
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    I'm only a little jealous.
     
  18. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    I made the mistake of testing out a Sage Circa 379-4 with a Sage Click III reel at the show in Lynnwood. I am now eagerly awaiting the first chance to employ it.
     
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    Dave, if you are thinking about spending enough to buy a Circa, I'd get a Winston Biit 8' 3wt, IMO a better and more versatile rod. If you don't want to spend that much I'd get a Redington CT (Tempt) or listen to Logan and get a Cabelas glass, they are great inexpensive glass rods that are a lot of fun for small waters.
     
  20. Eyejuggler

    Eyejuggler Beech Nut

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    Mark, I pulled the trigger on the CT in classifieds, I figured for 100 bucks it would be a nice starter creek rod, pairing it with the Galvan Brookie which is on its way hopefully. Thanks for the tips Mark and everyone, plenty of good info to work with as I mature in my small stream kit!