Small 'spoons' off the end of a dry line.

Klickrolf

Active Member
#47
This thread is a good one. I've fished dick's spoons off a spey without luck. They catch too much air during the cast and I get frustrated by that so usually just tie on a sparse fly cause I know it'll get deeper. Trouble is flies are not nearly as flashy.

The boys in the UK were fishing spinners and spoons off their spey rods over 100 years ago, nothing new under the sun.
 
#49
Wo having read this entire thread. I will often follow a run that has several people in it or that I have touched fish but no hook up w a very very small dick knight. It is deadly and I will say with 100% certainty that a very small dick knight will cast easier and farther with a Spey rod than a gear rod. Unless you are fishing an ultralight bluegill gear rod, which you wouldn't be for that type of water.

It turns a look into a player. Definitely worth having one in the ol fly box. Agreed, not a fly, but whatever.

Those of us that do it over here refer to it as "dirty swinging".

Me
 

ten80

Active Member
#52
Agreed, except for the flash...and the wobble. The spoons are all flash and the flash frequency is more consistant and blatant.

Very true. Dick nites fished properly have a very good wobble (that causes flashes) that would be hard to emulate with a fly, and it's that wobble that drives any hungry fish to bite. If you fish a DN with too large a hook or a tangled leader, the flutter is diminished and catch rate goes down exponentially (I've experienced this). Adding a sequin above the fly might work, but otherwise the spoon flutter is an action that a soft-material fly cannot replicate.
 
#53
Another idea for those of us that have Boats.


While I am in my 2013 Pavati Guardian I will often tie colorado trout blades on to a heavy sink tip, a 30-40inch leader and then a large fly tipped with a prawn. You can't really cast it but you can flick it out and then slowly let it out down stream or while you are trolling, the best part is that spey rods upside down fit perfectly in most rod holders. This method has really been producing lately and you can even troll in the salt using this set up. Clients catch more fish, and you can slowly introduce them to spey rods without the frustrating learning curve!

If you're fishing with a friend, another good method is to stand on opposite banks with your spey rods and use them to let a net out.
 
#54
Another idea for those of us that have Boats.

While I am in my 2013 Pavati Guardian I will often tie colorado trout blades on to a heavy sink tip, a 30-40inch leader and then a large fly tipped with a prawn. You can't really cast it but you can flick it out and then slowly let it out down stream or while you are trolling, the best part is that spey rods upside down fit perfectly in most rod holders. This method has really been producing lately and you can even troll in the salt using this set up. Clients catch more fish, and you can slowly introduce them to spey rods without the frustrating learning curve!
LOL this can't be real life. Somebody pinch me.
 
#55
Typical purist response. Don't you understand the average person just wants to catch fish and have fun. My methods accomplish this all while advocating and introducing people to more technical methods.

I don't guess anyone would classify me as a purist. I love to throw spoons off a spey or even a single hander, I've used beads, bait, hardwear, go with gear guides trolling for springers on the columbia, blah blah blah. If you enjoy what you're doing and your clients have a good time then more power to you but I don't think trolling around bait on a spey is any kind of intro to jack shit other than "hey, look at this long ass rod". An intro to a spey rod might involve actually casting it. Why don't you just introduce them to trolling bait with a bait casting reel that has a line counter and show them how to rig all that shit up and tie all the knots and all the complexities of fishing that method. Personally I think swinging flies (or whatever it is you think purists do) is probably less technical than trolling bait. It's actually one of the reasons I enjoy it, I don't need to take a whole a bunch of shit with me to fish. Rod,reel,line,flies.
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#57
I don't guess anyone would classify me as a purist. I love to throw spoons off a spey or even a single hander, I've used beads, bait, hardwear, go with gear guides trolling for springers on the columbia, blah blah blah. If you enjoy what you're doing and your clients have a good time then more power to you but I don't think trolling around bait on a spey is any kind of intro to jack shit other than "hey, look at this long ass rod". An intro to a spey rod might involve actually casting it. Why don't you just introduce them to trolling bait with a bait casting reel that has a line counter and show them how to rig all that shit up and tie all the knots and all the complexities of fishing that method. Personally I think swinging flies (or whatever it is you think purists do) is probably less technical than trolling bait. It's actually one of the reasons I enjoy it, I don't need to take a whole a bunch of shit with me to fish. Rod,reel,line,flies.
Freakin' purist. Get off your high horse and lower yourself down to the rest of us nates.
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#60
Typical purist response. Don't you understand the average person just wants to catch fish and have fun. My methods accomplish this all while advocating and introducing people to more technical methods.

I think where someone might say "WTF" is that your guest is learning precisely nothing about fly fishing with a 2 hander. If they recount their story to 99% of long rod fly anglers, they are likely to be told (at least) that they were not fly fishing.

I'm the last person to tell you can or cannot do anything. :D