Unhappy Russians on the Stilly

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Greg Price

Love da little fishies
#61
Yeh, many years ago I observed several people overfishing at Lenore. I told them to stop and pulled my cell out, letting them know very loudly I was calling the Police.

They all (maybe 3 generations of them) seemed to understand the word "Police". All of them packed up and left pronto. Since then I have learned that some countries have corrupt Police forces which puts their citizens in fear of the Police. Sad. I still to this day know if they knew they were breaking the law.
 

Jay Burman

Fly Fisher, Bon Vivant, Layabout.
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No shit. iagree Duffer

PS I've noticed that people who pull out the racism card usually don't even really know what the hell it really means. It's a wholier than thou attempt to declare some sort of phony moral superiority and this just reafirms what I've seen the last 10 times or so I've seen it directed at someone. We all have prejudices, if small and eccentric or in your face and out in the open. Team that up with inherent issues of zenophobia (which some say is part of the human condition), and you have one of the great challenges in life. All good people constantly work on and repel intrusive thoughts of prejudice and zenophobia, some less than others but I think we all find them sneaking into our heads at times. The issues aren't the hurdles we have to cross it's how hard we work at getting over the damn things without having to be judged by people who really don't know what the hell they're talking about. Gary, it's refreshing to hear a man's real voice, not the PC phony bullshit kind of voice we are all subjected to all over the place nowadays. Nice work Griz! Tight lines Coach
Just for the record, it's "Xenophobia" with an "X". fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.
 
#63
Mingo... That was some funny shit!!!, Kevin, don't drink and read funny shit at the same time! Ray... funny as well!!! Coach, Gary, Jason and anyone else NOT on the PC wagon, RIGHT ON! WTF are the damn Russians doing fishing in our rivers anyway?? Go the F back to Russia!! Haha... :D I got on here to see what's happening with the Chinook and Silvers and all I've read was this F'd-up thread!! Thanks for the entertainment guys!!

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Tom Smith
 
#64
Just for the record, it's "Xenophobia" with an "X". fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.
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PS When someone comes in as late in the game as you and corrects a spelling mistake for the second time, (when it was already corrected once) I have to really wonder just how much fun life is for you big fella. Also the definition obviously was not needed as the word was used in the posts in the proper context. Remind me to bring some pliers over to your house soon and help you pull the bug out of your ass. But thanks for the moment of clarity. How about getting out of the house and doing something fun each and every day, for both of us! Love ya and tight lines Duffer
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
#65
I thought it was "Zenaphobia"-fear of the TV show!! My peeve is the people who come here, and don't make a serious attempt to comprehend the language, then use that as an excuse to get off, like the Vietnamese poacher caught with 78 undersize abalone and a set of scuba tanks in northern CA a few years back. for the Russians in that boat, Zdyes Amerika, Tovarisch; Gavrite pa Angliski pajalsta?
 
#66
Being part Spanish, I hate stereotypes. One day as we were enjoying a couple post-fishing beers, one of my buddies asked me to "do something Spanish". I said "eh? what?"

"come on dude, do something Spanish!"

"what the hell are you talking about?"

"I know you're part Spanish so DO SOMETHING SPANISH!"


So I stabbed him.
Reminds me of Lee Trevino when he won the US Open about a 100 or so years ago....a dumb-ass reporter asked, "Mr. Trevino are you Mexican or Spanish?" Trevino smiled indulgently and replied, "Well, I USED to be Mexican.......but now that I've won the US Open, I'm Spanish!" Classic.....cracked me up :rofl::rofl:!!

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Jc:beer2:
 
#67
I unfortunately work in the corporate world and we go through diversity training, work in a diverse environment, purchase only from diversity compliant vendors and even have a Director of Procurement Diversity................... being "politically correct" is out of vogue.
 

Salmo_g

Well-Known Member
#68
A little too much to bother reading all the way through here, but "Russian" isn't a race. Like most US citizens, most Russians seem to be white, but a lot of the former Soviet Union are Arab; I'm not so sure with the current Russian nation.

It's pretty common, although maybe not so PC, which seems to bother some, to mention race or ethnicity in conjunction with an action of unusual or special merit or demerit, in the case of poaching. It seems to me that race is relevant in these cases because often the people involved are immigrants who still adhere to different cultural and value systems. It's no secret that a lot of Russian immigrants have been observed or busted poaching fish. Similarly certain Asians are frequently observed and busted poaching crabs in Puget Sound. The relevance is that some or many groups of immigrants have an important ways to go in adapting to the natural resource values and laws and regulations of their new home.

Sg
 

Porter

Active Member
#69
I unfortunately work in the corporate world and we go through diversity training, work in a diverse environment, purchase only from diversity compliant vendors and even have a Director of Procurement Diversity................... being "politically correct" is out of vogue.
So, regardless of quality, pricing, service, and etc. it is more important to make sure a percentage of goods/product/services are purchased from an equal representative sample of the population? :confused:
 
#70
Originally Posted by Patrick Quinn

"I unfortunately work in the corporate world and we go through diversity training, work in a diverse environment, purchase only from diversity compliant vendors and even have a Director of Procurement Diversity................... being "politically correct" is out of vogue."



Well, according to the "very corporate" world that I work in and have the same mindless training you do, "politically correct" is very much IN vogue....and would be unthinkable (the whole point-no thinking permitted!) to be OUT of vogue!:( :ray1:

Jc:beer2:
 

Mark Moore

Just a Member
#71
Damn Coach, I have got to get over there and fish with you!!!!

If you guys think they're f---in' up the fishing, you should try being a contractor in the Northwest.

Just remember, while our boys were in Europe and Asia fighting communists and fascists with their BLOOD, they were here taking over our academia and our media. As a consequence, our kids are being taught BULLSHIT PC so that no one will stand up and say anything when they see a poacher, or a communist who wants to be president, because they are afraid of being called a racist.

You can bet your ass if one of us was in Russia poaching Salmon they would calling us "Arrogant American", and it would a hell of a lot more than a $300.00 ticket. I'm pretty sure "I don't understand Russian" wouldn't go very far. :thumb:
 
#72
A little too much to bother reading all the way through here, but "Russian" isn't a race. Like most US citizens, most Russians seem to be white, but a lot of the former Soviet Union are Arab; I'm not so sure with the current Russian nation.

It's pretty common, although maybe not so PC, which seems to bother some, to mention race or ethnicity in conjunction with an action of unusual or special merit or demerit, in the case of poaching. It seems to me that race is relevant in these cases because often the people involved are immigrants who still adhere to different cultural and value systems. It's no secret that a lot of Russian immigrants have been observed or busted poaching fish. Similarly certain Asians are frequently observed and busted poaching crabs in Puget Sound. The relevance is that some or many groups of immigrants have an important ways to go in adapting to the natural resource values and laws and regulations of their new home.

Sg
Nicely put.
 

Philster

Active Member
#73
Reminds me of Lee Trevino when he won the US Open about a 100 or so years ago....a dumb-ass reporter asked, "Mr. Trevino are you Mexican or Spanish?" Trevino smiled indulgently and replied, "Well, I USED to be Mexican.......but now that I've won the US Open, I'm Spanish!" Classic.....cracked me up :rofl::rofl:!!

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Jc:beer2:

Gotta love Lee... Still has the best line ever on any topic. He answered the question "what do you do if a lightning storm breaks out when you're golfing?" with the line "hold a one iron over your head, because even God can't hit a one iron":rofl:
 

Porter

Active Member
#74
Gotta love Lee... Still has the best line ever on any topic. He answered the question "what do you do if a lightning storm breaks out when you're golfing?" with the line "hold a one iron over your head, because even God can't hit a one iron":rofl:
Good Stuff!:thumb::beer2::beer2:
 

o mykiss

Active Member
#75
Folks, people poach because they're either ignorant or willing to break the law. Most of you who have "contributed" to this thread - with the exception of a few level-headed fellows like Richard - apparently have complete certitude that poaching by a member of some racial or immigrant group is indicative of the moral turpitude of the entire group (the good ol' non-PC view), whereas no such similar connection is ever made (or even conceived) by you about the seventh-generation white guy named Bill Smith who gets caught snagging silvers with his snot-nosed kid on the banks of the Green. If we are to assume (as all you non-PC blowhards are asserting) that Russians/Mexicans/[fill in the blank] are more prone to poach because of some inherent moral weakness of that group (or as Salmo G puts it, ironically, in a more "PC" way - "different cultural and value systems"), please explain to me why the fact that Bill Smith is white and has American ancestry dating back several generations is totally irrelevant to why he poaches. I'm just curious.

By the way, maybe a subforum should be established for all you guys who are hyperventilating about "political correctness" to go and spew whatever racist, sexist, xenophobic, or other non-PC thought that is on your mind. The common thread here seems to be that life is so damn difficult keeping those sorts of thoughts to yourself, so how about a subforum where you don't have to worry your poor, little, misunderstood heads that you might be subjected to any disapprobation for expressing them? I'll buy the tissues. bawling:
 
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