Golden Trout

#31
You shouldn't feel ashamed in the slightest for eating those fish. That's what they're there for. There's absolutely no conservation value to exotic fish species planted in a historically fishless lake. In fact, you're possibly even doing the lake a favor by taking a few fish out.

Catch and release is a good ethic to live by...when and where it's appropriate.

When I fish a highlake and it appears that there are tons of fish and minimal fishing pressure, I don't lose sleep over keeping a fish or two for the pan. I had delicious cutthroat tacos two weekends ago at an offtrail highlake in the Chelan-Sawtooth. However, I frequent another lake of several acres that has rainbows over 5lbs in it....but there's only maybe 25-40 in the lake. It's catch and release only when I'm there and I cherish each monster brought to hand when there.

The element of guilt was erased long, long ago....I didn't know zip about fish back then....and only just a smidgen more now!

Jc
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#32
The real reason that people come on here and ask for places to get to is that they are too lazy to get out and search for those places by themselves. If the places is close to a road they will all hit it. But if they have to walk too far they will just as much as forget about it.

Now me on the other hand, I will stay close to a road. I hate busting thru the bushes anymore. Just gettiing to old and lazy.
 

Ed Call

Well-Known Member
#33
The real reason that people come on here and ask for places to get to is that they are too lazy to get out and search for those places by themselves. If the places is close to a road they will all hit it. But if they have to walk too far they will just as much as forget about it.

Now me on the other hand, I will stay close to a road. I hate busting thru the bushes anymore. Just gettiing to old and lazy.

You have no true idea what the real reason that folks come here with a statement like that Jim. Some come here just for what you have said. Others come here because they like puzzles and putting the peices together brings something enriching to them. Others come here for you to bash on them, more to hear your high pitched rants, wish you well...

There are as many reasons to come here as there are people who frequent the pages.

Why not go outside and fish today, is your cubicle restricting you? I'm here now in lieu of lunch because reading what you type is more important to me than food itself.
 
#35
You have no true idea what the real reason that folks come here with a statement like that Jim. Some come here just for what you have said. Others come here because they like puzzles and putting the peices together brings something enriching to them. Others come here for you to bash on them, more to hear your high pitched rants, wish you well...

There are as many reasons to come here as there are people who frequent the pages.

Why not go outside and fish today, is your cubicle restricting you? I'm here now in lieu of lunch because reading what you type is more important to me than food itself.

Touche'.....as they say somewhere or other!:D

Jc
 

Ed Call

Well-Known Member
#37
Well, it has been very hot. There has been disruption in the positive energy of my home thanks to some house guest who shall remain un-named. If I have offended Jim or anyone else I apologize. JC, I think your actions years ago were fine and your actions now are fine. Allison, I'm okay with your choices. You are a great gear reviewer and got there because of making good choices I'm sure. That is my high road mentality for the day even after being called out in public. Even you have a reason for coming here...but we all know it is not for my posts.
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#40
I don't know squat about goldens in any damn lake nor do I really care where, when or how they got there. The damn things are to fricken' small to care about. One thing I do know it is not cool to post up personal messages for all to see unless both parties agree for those messages to be made public. Very poor netiquette.
 

Chris Scoones

Administrator
Staff member
#42
Moderator hat off, Wilken I thought you had a few valid points. Even noted as much to Allison offline. Doesn't mean I don't respect her point of view but I prefer a bit more open sharing of lakes info on water that holds non-native species.

Putting that moderator hat back on, stating your last post was poor form is an understatement. PM's should be considered private.

Chris
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#43
I also know where there are lakes with goldens in it. But I don't give out things that are on the fragile side.

But my statement is true. People come here asking for places that are easy to get to. Not to many people want to go bush wacking.

I have given out many places to fish in Washington, but I think that is now coming to an end. What good is a fishing hole if you don't put in a little time and effert to find it.

Jim
 

Cedar

Active Member
#44
I originally posted the question not because I wanted to find a lake close to the road, but because I was hoping to capitalize on some firsthand knowledge (obviously). I think most people realize that there are no easy access Golden Trout fisheries in Washington State. There are a number of lakes that are barren and many others that contain rainbows and cuts but no goldens. I know that I can go to the WDFW website and look at stocking records however no knowledge obtained from the internet or books can be a substitute for first hand personal knowledge. I really have never understood the mentality behind keeping fishing locations like this secret. Are there really that many people that are willing to put that much effort into catching a 8-10 inch fish. To 99.9 percent of the population a Golden is nothing more than just another fish. The only people that are willing to put forth the effort to get to these fisheries are the ones who appreciate the beauty and serenity of the fish and areas, which means more than likely they are interested in the keeping the wilds intact. For those of you who say that these lakes aren't hard to get to; You have lost sight of the fact that the typical angler will not fish water that they can't see from a road or parking lot. Remember laziness is the overriding theme is today's society. To those of you who say that I am taking the easy way out by looking for information on this forum, you are right. I have a wife and kids and I can't afford to be away from them for two weeks while I hike around the Cascades looking for "the lake". I choose to try and take some shortcuts so that I can enjoy the resources, natural and naturalized that we have.
 

Michael Thompson

the flavor of BADFISH
#45
i would agree that people come here for a head start. especially since some of us are out of work, running low on dough and really need a good fishing trip. lets face it, when 40 bucks feels like 40,000 dollars, going out bush wacking and exploring and burning a tank of gas doesn't sound like the easy endeavor other folks make it out to be. not to mention the fact that someone's secret spot is already another's favorite weekend retreat complete with fried trout for dinner, the rowdy neighbor kids, and a dog that wont shut up.
this thread was pretty refreshing but took an unusually long time to turn sour.
back to goldenswhat subspecies of trout are they? they almost look like a brown cuthroat hybrid of sorts (i do realize that isn't the case)