5wt vs 4wt

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  1. husker12181

    husker12181 The strong silent type

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    I have been looking to buy a new rod for a couple months. I was just about to run down to the local store (Creekside Angling) and buy a new 5wt rod. When I got to thinking. I have a 7wt rod why don't I get a 4wt rod instead.

    So here's my question to you all, should I get a 4wt for trout rivers/streams with the knowledge that I can just grab my 7wt if I go to a big river?
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    Buy a 5wt like I originally planned.

    Thanks in advance
    Steve
     
  2. Kirk Singleton

    Kirk Singleton Capt Kirk

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    Steve, I like to skip a weight....4,6,8, or 3,5,7. That said right now I am using a 4,5,6. the 5 for drys and the 6 for nymphs. I love the 4 for drys when there is no wind. I have the Winston B2x in the 5 and b2mx in the 6. I couldnt be happier with either rod. I live by Creekside also and spend a lot of $ there. I know they will waive the sales tax and you might get a line out of them also if you buy a reel. Go see Pete.
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  3. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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    You don't say if the 7wt is your only fly rod or if you have others as well. However I would probably stick with your decision for a 5wt, since I think it would be a better all around rod for trout.

    I have 3 5wt's and 3 8wt's so I don't know that it matters if you're two or three weights apart. I'm also building a 3wt.

    A lot depends on where you're planning on fishing and what types of flies you plan on throwing (dries, nymphs, streamers, etc.). I think a moderate action 5wt will handle most situations and you'll be able to deal with windy conditions just a bit more than with a 4wt.

    Good luck with you choice!
    Bill
     
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    I happen to have a rather fast 5wt T&T that I have always thrown a 6wt line with...it is a great general purpose trout rod and will handle windy conditions and by no means is a "cannon" when throwing dry flies.......

    If your asking for an opinion....the 5 wt can actually be a true 5 wt or a 6 wt, depending on the wind you might encounter with the addition of a spare spool......

    I own three rods... the 5 wt, an 8 wt, and a spey...I think I have all of my fishing needs covered with the three of these rods, anywhere from pan fish to kings....

    Respectfully

    Earl Smith
     
  5. David Loy

    David Loy Senior Moment

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    I think the most valuable 2 rod setup for this area would be a 5 and 7 wt. You will regret jumping to a 4wt unless you see several rods in your future. All around, the 5 is the most versatile trout rod. The 7 can throw streamers, fish SRCs and Coho in a breeze, and I think realistically its good for all but the largest steelhead your likely to encounter. If you ever decide to throw heavy Winter flies you may need to go up a notch or two but 20/20 hindsight, if I could only have two, that would be my pick.
     
  6. Gary Thompson

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    If your building a 3wt then skip the 4wt and get the 5wt.
    Best all around rod wt for the PNW.
     
  7. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    :thumb:I Agree
     
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    that's a next to impossible question to answer. however, i got started on a 5 and an 8. used those 2 rods for years and years before i started to add to the collection. the 5 is very versitle with 3 in my collection, all different actions. to go lighter i ended up with a classic 3 LL which is really nice for very small stream fishing. of course the collection goes up and down in rod weight as i added other fishes to my habit.

    all of that said, if i ended up in some new location that offered small and medium stream frishing for trout, i often wish i had that 4wt. in fact, if i could find a good condition sage 4 LL i would buy it right now.

    totally confused? i can understand that sentiment and it can only be addressed by stopping typing and starting fishing. your habits should dictate which rods are in your budding collection.
     
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    Buck "Ride'n Dirty."

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    Bryan Williamson Willybethere

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    buy both, you'll use em!
     
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    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Get the 5wt. You eventually will WANT a 4 wt. for more dry fly action.
     
  13. Jeremy Floyd

    Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter which one. Depending on brand, action, or length, their characteristics in all honesty could/would be nearly identical.
     
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    There's a good reason why the five is the most popular size for trout fishing in general. It has just the right balance of delicacy and power to best handle a day on a trout stream or lake in normal conditions. (I think, though, that too many anglers try to make their five-weight do everything; they'd be better served with a six or seven when using dense sinking lines for substantial nymphs or streamers.) A four-weight, though, matches so well with the kind of conditions we tend to remember as ideal: clear water, little or no wind, moderate distances, small flies. If I'm matching the hatch, stalking up a small creek, fishing an alpine lake or enjoying a calm evening on a local lake, it's usually with a four.
     
  15. husker12181

    husker12181 The strong silent type

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    If I am understanding all the comments clearly, you are all stating that a 4wt is more for dry flies on the small streams and alpine lakes. If that is the case then I should get a 5wt due to my use of nymphs and wet flies, but will still have the use of a lighter rod for some dry flies if I chose.

    I would be using the rod for pretty much everything from the Madison in Montana to local PNW lakes a rivers.

    My 7wt is mainly used for steelhead and occasionally when I am throwing really big nymphs and streamers to the deep holes for the "big ones".

    I do currently have a 5wt backpackers 30$ special that I keep in my car with a couple flies just in case I come across something I want to fish. But I want a nicer rod that will actually do what I want it to.
     
  16. Be Jofus G

    Be Jofus G Banned or Parked

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    Comprimise and buy a Fast 4 WT or a Med action 5 wt. The 5 wt will be cheaper.
     
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    I said five weight because in my opinion it is the most versatile rod out there. I started with an 8, then picked up a 9'6" 5wt TFO pro which is sort of a medium fast action and works well for pretty much everything. I have fished everything from dries to big streamers for cutthroat to big leeches on bigger rivers for summer steelies. It is a damn good all round rod. Of course, I have the disease, so now I have a 3,4,5,6,8 and spey and switch rods. If I had to get rid of all my other light rods to just keep one it would be the 5.
     
  18. Sloan Craven

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    Great advice. A fast or very fast 4 wt and a med action 5 wt can be about the same.

    But I really don't think you're going to regret getting either one. They both can be great all around trout rods.
     
  19. ak_powder_monkey

    ak_powder_monkey Proud to Be Alaskan

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    5 wt no question
     
  20. Steven Green

    Steven Green Hood Canal Pirate

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    iagree

    I use a 4 for trout most of the time. I have a 6 but I mostly use it for salt.

    Steven
     

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