6/7 WT Spey Rods

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by PT, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. I'm starting the search for a lighter rod. Right now looking at the CND Solstice 6/7 wt. Most of my fishing is done throwing tips and I'm just looking for some options and opinions.

    I considered the TFO but don't really like the shorter rods (12.5 ft). The Solstice is 13'4".

    Anyone have this rod and if so which lines do you use with it for a full floater and also a tip line. I'm not really a big fan of the shorter heads but want to balance the rod out with whatever line it's best suited for.

    My other rod is an old Sage 8150 which I love but want something else in the arsenal. I'm fishing the Sage with a mid spey and like the way it fishes.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. I have the 14'3" solstice, and have fished the 13'4" inch quite a bit. If I was going to fish tips most of the time, I wouldn't be looking at the solstice... I would run, not walk, directly to Bob Meiser and buy the 13 foot 6/7 MKS Mike Kinney series. It costs less than the solstice and has more... Lets say balls :eek: Don't get me wrong, I love the solstices. The 14'3" has worked itself into first position for my summer/fall fishing, but if you're going to be throwing tips more than half the time, might as well get a rod that likes tips as much as it likes floaters, and the MKS does.:thumb:
     
  3. My vote goes with the 12'5" for 7 Burkheimer(7125). It is a sweet rod. It is the best in the 13' and under 6/7 realm.
     
  4. To me Burkheimer rods are like Carron lines. Worth every penny. I just don't have that many pennies:confused: Haven't cast that one, but every other one I've cast has been awesome.
     
  5. Philster, the 6/7 Meiser you mentioned, does it have a fast action or somewhat moderate. Are you overlining it skagit style or would it throw a mid-spey well?

    Thanks, Dave
     
  6. If you're in Seattle, you can probably arrange to try one out at Aaron's Saturday morning get together. Might even run into the Burkie there too. I've only thrown the 6/7 a few times, but I have extensive experience with the 7/8 and the 6/7 definitely shares the family traits. It'll throw a midspey without blinking, but personally, once I get into the 13 or less length, I'm usually throwing windcutter/delta length lines or shorter. The MKS rods really are outstanding casting and fishing tools. The following are bob's words and they aren't hype:

    The MKS rods are all based on the Skagit style family of two-handed rods, all with fast/medium fast recovery progressive actions.

    The Skagit style of rod taper starts with a very fast recovery, powerful top end.. Progressing, and increasing in power through the taper as it heads towards to the bottom two-thirds of the blank. >From this point the taper slows a bit, to allow the caster a friendly connection to sense loading well into the grip.

    These are rods designed specifically to un-hinge, and deliver lots of advanced weight -forward head grainage, and extreme sink tips from the anchor. They are no-nonsense, very authoritive casting tools. All with ample power to not only deliver a broad range of lines to both Summer and Winter Steelhead, but also to defeat all Salmon species as well....Equally at home as grease liners as they are at delivering and swinging 24 feet of T-14, over a wide variety of river systems, in equally diverse river conditions.
     
  7. in the big scheme of rods from soft to stiff, if you like the 8150, then the MKS series should feel good. Both rods work deep into the blank.
     
  8. As they say, that's what makes it a horserace. I would call the 8150 and the MKS night and day different! The tops are just... so different.
     
  9. sage 14'1" 7wt.?
     
  10. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that the 8150 and 13' MKS are peas in a pod, but in the bigger scheme of things Phil, give it your best shot to convince me that ANY 13' 6/7 rod currently made is exactly like the 8150. I'm sure I can argue away any suggestion, its just a matter of degree, like the FLO 1307 would get really close but it ain't identical, you dig? The Sage and MKS are different rods, different weights, different lengths, from different eras, and different makers ... so they're bound to be different. But in the scheme of things they ain't night and day, not like the 7141 that was just suggested, or maybe I should have recommended the T&T 1307 instead ? :beathead:
     
  11. Not lookin' for a fight SS, just that the 8150 to me is a very soft tipped rod that starts to wheeze the second the wind kicks up. Yes the MKS has a butt that loads up nicely, but it really does "unfold", meaning the top end starts to resist flexing, and that transmits power down to the butt. With the 8150, the top keeps bending as the whole rod flexes. In fact I would very much call the solstice a beefier 8150.

    As to the 7141, Crobar probably just meant it as a great suggestion for tips rod, and he's right, it's a much better choice than the solstice for tips. The only problem is it's an 8 weight:cool:
     
  12. Might one to look at the Snowbee Torridge 12 footer 6/7 wgt spey, see the write up on Simon Gawesworth site . It handles tips very nicely. Red Shed fly shop has them thats where I got mine last fall.

    :thumb:

    BG

    http://www.speyborn.com/SnowbeeTorridge.htm


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  13. I have to agree that the Sage 7141 is an 8 wt., maybe a 8/9 wt. I have settled on a old style 7/8 xlt and a 8/9 Cortland spey line for tips.
    I recently also bought a Sage 5120, which appears to be a 6 wt. although I haven't completely settled on a line for it. The best I have found are a 6/7/8 Windcutter and a 6/7 Orvis line, similar to a mid-spey.
    I wonder why Sage is so far off on numbering their rods, it certainly doesn't help in matching lines to their rods.
     
  14. I have this rod. I use a Skagit 450 +tips with this rod. I use a midspey 6/7 for a floating line.

    I would like to try the new CND floating line in 7/8 on this rod. Haven't had a chance yet.
     
  15. I have the 13'4" Solstice and really enjoy it for throwing tips.

    Been fishing it on the Skagit and Sauk with 6" eyed string leeches, 450 Rio Skagit line, 5' 8/9wt Skagit cheater, and 11' of type 8 10wt tip (or 10' of cheater and 6' of tip). It'll throw that setup further than I usually want to fish it.

    I like both rods. Meiser's are a bit softer and easier to cast, but they're also a bit heavier. I like the light weight of the Solstice as well as the reserve power it has for fishing longer-belly lines in the summer.

    My advice is to try both and see which fits your casting style and feel. Both are fine rods and will throw tips w/o any problem. It doesn't really matter what others like because ~they~ won't be fishing your rod. :thumb:
     
  16. and Meiser will send you a rod to test drive. finding a solstice to cast shouldn't be a problem...
     
  17. Phil, where you livin' nowadays? You don't have a location shown on your profile.

    Richard
     
  18. Same ol' same ol' Richard. The other two boards I'm on show it. I either never did it here, or it "fell off" somehow:confused:
     
  19. Thanks for the info. I've been at this game long enough to know that every angler has their rod preferances and different casting styles.

    My 8150 is on the slow side and doesn't fish too well in the wind so I'll be looking for something a bit faster to throw the tips this summer.
     
  20. O.K. Back to the original question.
    A lot of guys are finding that the shorter lighter rods are able to throw sink tips and big flies when matched up with a Skagit type line. Used to be we had to go to big, power house rods to do that. Not any more. And the current line of thinking favors the more moderate actions for this type of delivery.

    You could do it with the 8150. You could also do it with the 13'-4" Soltace. The 8150 would need cheaters to get the head long enough. At 13'-4" the Soltace would be a better choice. It is a faster action rod than the Meiser MKS series, but a heavy Skagit line will slow it down some. Just adjust your stroke.

    If you really want to buy a new rod, then by all means you owe it to yourself to try a Meiser MKS. Another one you may want to try is the CND North Fork. This is a lighter version of the CND Skagit Specialist.
     

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