More Quality Waters Needed

KerryS

Ignored Member
#16
I am simply saying that a lot of the putNtakes have good fishing once the crowds leave. Even you stated the parking lots are empty but I can say with honesty the waters aren't. I am merely pointing out that if we look we can find many "quality" fishing opportunities right under our noses.
 

skyrise

Active Member
#17
I think this is a good point, "Given the popularity of the few quality waters, it seems the scale is off balance".
And isnt Lenice a special reg lake, not fly fishing only. And I agree some of the put-n-take lakes do hold up thru the season. but not all. And I am not a fly only guy (just for trout).

I could start a war over my next suggestion : The SAUK River would be catch and release year round (When open) for all fishing.
I'll go dive into my fox hole now.
 
#18
I don't know to much about the "quality lakes" on the west side.
Here on the dry side the "quality lakes" get more poaching pressure, because of the bigger fish.
Also more "quality fishers" on the quality waters complaining about my electric motor from their toons.
The P&T lakes have less people as soon as the freshly planted fish slow down on the bite and I start having the places to myself and I don't mind catching dozen 12" fish with a few hogs as a bonus.
And another big + to the P&T's is if I want to take some for dinner, that is what they are there for.
 

Go Fish

Language, its a virus
#19
Not to be off subject...but I have found
that the eastside trout usually taste like
mud (or worse). I know this isn't true for
all the lakes but the one time I took
some trout home from Castle Lake....yuck.

Dave
 
#21
I don't know to much about the "quality lakes" on the west side.
Here on the dry side the "quality lakes" get more poaching pressure, because of the bigger fish.
Also more "quality fishers" on the quality waters complaining about my electric motor from their toons.
The P&T lakes have less people as soon as the freshly planted fish slow down on the bite and I start having the places to myself and I don't mind catching dozen 12" fish with a few hogs as a bonus.
And another big + to the P&T's is if I want to take some for dinner, that is what they are there for.
+1 and I'll add seeking out the "sleeper" fisheries in P&T lakes is worth your time. It's nice to have "name brand" lakes near by but sometimes the crowds get old. I typically fish quality waters in the Basin like Lenice and Dry Falls when water temps dictate that they will be at their peak. At other times I try to poke around and explore, choosing lakes based on fishing reports and stocking data. Essentially, trying to find a place with enough holdovers to keep things interesting. Those trips are a lot of fun and it's unusual to see another fly fisher.
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#22
Maybe we could have bait only lakes/must keep them lakes. Catch your limit and go home, NO catch and release. Then make more and more quality waters and just dump the put n takers time and time again into the catch and go home lakes. That would keep things less crowded at all of them.

Ira..
 

Vladimir Steblina

Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working
#23
Not to be off subject...but I have found
that the eastside trout usually taste like
mud (or worse). I know this isn't true for
all the lakes but the one time I took
some trout home from Castle Lake....yuck.

Dave
I once killed two basin trout at the insistence of friend that wanted to eat them. I warned him.

A couple of days later I asked how the trout tasted? He said "the cats would not touch them".

I wonder what people do with ALL those trout??
 
#25
Each summer when family visits the northwest I take the younguns fishing for a couple days at the local p&t lakes. We fillet all the trout and have a fish fry at my place. I mix a special shake, we bake and fry. Mmm good! The kids love it.
 

Vladimir Steblina

Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working
#28
A long time ago I talked to a state fish biologist about more "quality lakes" particularly on the west side.

His reply was interesting. Definition for him of a quality lake was a lake with LARGE fish. Most lakes west of the Cascades cannot grow large fish according to him. I disagree if you look at fishing reports from the 1950's there were plenty of lakes in western Washington that produced large fish. In fact, prior to the irrigation project most of eastern Washington was rather poor fishing.

Anyway, part of the problem is to change the perception that a quality lake is only about LARGE fish. My comment was that I would love to take my daughter out to a lake where she could catch LOTS of fish. To her that is a quality experience.

My other comment was to establish a goal like 10% or 25% of the lakes in a area should be ONE or ZERO limit lakes. This would reduce fish stocking costs and spread out the fishing pressure on the quality lakes. It would also entice more people to get into fishing as a sport.

The remaining fish can go into intensively managed put and take lakes and maintain a catch and kill fishery for a longer period of time. For example, all those fish that went into streams in Chelan County now end up in Fish Lake. That fishery is very popular since it has lots of fish.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the issue. I would really like to see more discussion of the 10% or 25% number. Those can also be warm water fisheries. Many bass fisherman now support catch and release for bass.

I know we will have arrived on this issue when we have catch and release carp lakes.
 
#29
I would side with Kerrys& Dirtydog on this one, I fish p&t lakes after the masses die off. I catch a good number of quality fish. What I would like to see maybe smaller creel limits, or slot limits on some more of those lakes.
So far as eating trout from lakes,I like to barbecue hole stuff them with green& red peppers onions and seasonings with wood chips to add some smoke flavor MMMMMM-----good.
Mark
 
#30
I just think that there are too many lakes and not enough enforcement to add stricter regs to many more of the lakes. I would love to see a 1 or 2 fish limit, and maybe not keeping anything over 18" Selective regs meaning no bait and barbless hooks. Creating more fly only water just pisses people off