CHIRONOMID THREAD -

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pond monkey

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Hi Nick,
I would use a bhml (bead head micro leech) under an indicator for general searching...I tie 'em on #12 scud hook usually with gold bead in black or golden/olive... This is just me but I wouldn't use a sinking line. I usually don't unless I suspect that fish are suspending....

Regards.....Paul
 
Here's a beadhead micro leech I use. Bunny strip tail, wrapped marabou body. This one is on a #10 but I use 12's and 14's as well. Simple and quite effective.
 

Stonefish

Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater
Very nice pattern TP.

Another option for leeches is tying them on small 90 degree jig hooks. The fish almost always get hooked right in the nose since the hook is riding point up. You also get a nice straight vertical presentation due to the hook eye placement.
You can also add a second eye so you can fish a chironomid dropper off your leech. The dropper will hang directly below the head of your leech.
Here are a couple of pics of the 90 degree jig hook with a dropper eye.
 
Very nice pattern TP.

Another option for leeches is tying them on small 90 degree jig hooks. The fish almost always get hooked right in the nose since the hook is riding point up. You also get a nice straight vertical presentation due to the hook eye placement.
You can also add a second eye so you can fish a chironomid dropper off your leech. The dropper will hang directly below the head of your leech.
Micro jig heads work very well for this. One of my fishing buddies ties one on a 1/80th oz jig head with crayfish orange tail, variegated orange and black chenille, and a soft hackle collar of pheasant rump patch dyed orange. He calls it the Cleveland Brown and it did very well last fall on Hebgen.
 
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pond monkey

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Pond, you got a picture of that leech? I tie one on a scud that is simple as heck to tie.
Hi Blue,
I'll try to get you a pic tomorrow. I just got a new IMAC a couple of weeks ago and I need to update my driver......
I have been using bhml for ten years..... learned about 'em in BC on our first fall tip.... That fly and scuds are about all anyone uses in the fall... They work great even tied on a standard type hook hanging vertically. Some guys are going to a "balanced pattern" tied on jig hooks.....I'm more of a traditionalist.... it's like wooden bats vs. aluminum...gimmee wood , they work great...
I tie mine on a scud hook with a gold bead, like I said. I like to use "woolly bugger marabou" for the tail red wire rib and "blood quill" marabou for the body tying tapering the body forward thinner body in back and a little fatter toward the front. I don't like blood quill 'bou for the tail .... too pointy...I tie mine one inch long (or so) from stem to stern most of the time....I like the compactness for a vertical presentation.....

Paul
 

Blue

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Heay, I Played around with the idea of a straight out hook, but I do like the jigs. Again, I want to show you my ideas
so bare with me. The straight out is actually two hooks with one bent up and one with straight eye. In this picture I didn't clip the hook on one which is what I now do. But the double hook didn't hurt.

(I wanna say, this was not my idea, I saw it some where)
The jigs
 

Blue

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Like I said I normally cut one of the hooks off and just use the eye portion. All it does is present the fly straight out in the middle of a Vertical line, then the Jig on the bottom or a Mid.
 
Blue and TP thanks for sharing your flies and ideas. Flyfishers in other parts of our country have been using this same idea for quite awhile. I'd like to see it catch on here. Just to be fair, chironomid fishing got it's start in the Northwest and is just catching on in states east of us. It takes time for a new idea to be accepted from place to place among fishermen, much quicker among the trout!
 

WABOWMAN

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I have to admit that all this info has really got me interested in mid fishing.Ive always had a problem with sitting there watching a bobber!I do admit that i never put much into it but it has gotten my interest in the past year or so.This thread is a big big help with the learning curve.
For a new guy starting out,what do you think would be the most used and affective patterns and sizes a guy should have in his/her box to start out mid fishing?
Thanks for this great thread and keep it up guys and gals!
 

Blue

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You know, it can be slow, just like any other style. If they aren't going for the Mid I will switch to other things, but seems I can always rustle at least one. But man, when you find that lake that the fish love these things, hang on. I have had several trips that they were hitting shortly after I dropped the line.

I don't know if my choice of patterns will work eerywhere, but I fish Utah and Idaho. So, my list is as follows
Chromie with red wire
White bead, black thread body, Blue wire
Black bead, black thread body, White, Red and Blue wire
Black bead and Olive V-rib
The Irish Spring
Ice Cream Cone
Black or Red bead with red thread and black wire
White bead, white thread and silver wire.

The ones with the black beads I do have the wing case and Peacock thorax with either Ostrich or Antron gills.

As Julie Andrews sang "these are a few of my favorite mids ...well something like that)