Pattern Salt Water Sea Run Dry Flies

kelvin

Active Member
#16
Roger I have seen them take those while squid jigging
they swim right on the surface
about 3 inches long
Bright orange
I ties one like that on a tube with the hackle sticking out of either side of 2 foam sheets ribbed with mono or small wire



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Smalma

Active Member
#17
Especially in view of the very successful historic fly swap it is hard to have any discussion on "salty" dry flies for sea-run coastal cutthroat without beginning with Steve Raymond's Cutthroat Candy. The cutthroat candy has been the standard of a successful dry for Puget Sound for nearly 4 decades.

While probably blasphemy to some of us old timers it would be pretty straight forward to modernize the Cutthroat Candy with a series of flies incorporating various colored foam bodies to increase floatation. The same could be done with old time freshwater/steelhead standards such as Haig-Brown's steelhead bee and the whole Wulff series (I'm especially fond of the Grey Wullf). The whole world of steelhead skaters and wakers should provide virtually endless list examples for inspiration of potential "salty" dries.

Let the creative juices flow!
Curt
 

kelvin

Active Member
#18
While probably blasphemy to some of us old timers it would be pretty straight forward to modernize the Cutthroat Candy with a series of flies incorporating various colored foam bodies to increase floatation. The same could be done with old time freshwater/steelhead standards such as Haig-Brown's steelhead bee and the whole Wulff series (I'm especially fond of the Grey Wullf). The whole world of steelhead skaters and wakers should provide virtually endless list examples for inspiration of potential "salty" dries.

Let the creative juices flow!
Curt

I think tying with spun hair is a better Idea
 

Smalma

Active Member
#19
I agree - I love spun deer hair.

I use spun deer hair heads in many of my flies and I really like dry fly bodies of tightly compacted and trimmed spun deer hair. Most of my "hoppers" have clipped spun deer hair bodies. That said I knew many tiers are not as much of a fan in spinning deer and I was merely suggesting that with today's options in materials there are possibilities to incorporate foam in the tie of flies that are going to fished with movement.

tight lines
curt
 
#20
Glad to see this thread going since I have been working on a spun deer head surface pattern for a while now, but can't seem to get it right. I'll keep working on it now. I've got new ideas, thanks guys.
 

Dale Dennis

Formally Double-D
#22
You guys are still in hyper warp speed I step away from the site for a day and this thread has gone wild.
Kelvin here are some versions of the Skating Tube Flatwing Sandlance (note the bill) along with some subsurface flat wings that I was supposed to tie at our last swap.
Roger, great idea for the Kraken floating worm.
 
#23
Kelvin, I have nothing to show for my efforts, all the attempts were ripped apart after spinning deer hair drove me to insanity. It's all in my head, which is where the fly is too, so I'm gonna work on it again until I get it right. My original drive was to tie a skater with only naturals. I've been looking more and more at steelhead skaters.

Dale, is that a foam base wrapped on the main tube body on the lipped fly? very interesting?
 

kelvin

Active Member
#24
You guys are still in hyper warp speed I step away from the site for a day and this thread has gone wild.
Kelvin here are some versions of the Skating Tube Flatwing Sandlance (note the bill) along with some subsurface flat wings that I was supposed to tie at our last swap.
Roger, great idea for the Kraken floating worm.
those are beautiful
what makes them float?
 

Dale Dennis

Formally Double-D
#25
Kelvin, my early versions were tied on a larger tube with a ¼”w x 1/8” foam strip tied in on top of the tube they worked well but I felt they were a little to bulky in the body.
Several years ago while attending the Ellensburg Fly Fishing Fair I ran across a guy who had tied up some steelhead skating tubes in this fashion. The light came on instantly, when I got home the rest was history. With these tide on a micro tube (bill) the foam is no longer necessary.
I have playing with another version that is adjustable from skating to subsurface by rotating the tube bill, still in work on this one.
 

Dale Dennis

Formally Double-D
#27
Kelvin,
I heat up a pair of flat nose pliers (no teeth) with a lighter, simply squeeze and bend at the desired angle (approx. 45degs) then come back with a hot needle and open it up. Some secondary minor trimming of the bill may be required.
With the adjustable version the bill is a separate entity, you simply heat the front of the tube of the fly until the bill seats snugly this allows you to rotate it at any angle you desire, side to side down or up for skating.
 
#29
Thats awesome Dale, so I assume the upturned bill forces the fly to plow through the water on the surface when under tension? That is a great idea!