Airflo Rage: Not So Clever Or Am I Missing Something?

James Mello

Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"
#16
I think this post is the best answer to the op- although I think the Rage does ok with light tips- like 10' of t8 - it was designed for polyleaders- and it works good for that- going hole hog and using a hammer makes perfect sense.
We only had T11 tips. I was surprised that it didn't do too well with like 10' of it. Seemed to have a 'kick point' with it. Given enough energy, it would accelerate out and lay over, but it was more effort that I thought it should have been. Plus when it did turn over, it was with a bruising 'slap' rather than a gentle layout.
 
#17
Wow... Looks like someone really digs the rage :)

As for the two, I honestly would rather underline a skagit than go with a Rage. The rage is longer which is nice, and does rollout better. But overall if it's too windy for a compact skandi (which does a pretty good job of turning over junk), I feel you might as well go whole hog and just use a hammer. In addition, I've cast the rage and with tips, it plain blows. With the compact skagit, you have a known quantity in terms of tips. As a dryline it's not too bad, but if the situation allows it, I'd much rather toss a short belly spey or scandi as it's less "clunky". But I suppose if you want a single line, the compromises of the Rage do outweight having to keep 2 lines on hand.....
James- what would you suggest for a shortbelly spey or long scandi for a dry line- I also feel like the Rage is a tad clunky- feels like it needs to be stretched out.
 
#20
James- what would you suggest for a shortbelly spey or long scandi for a dry line- I also feel like the Rage is a tad clunky- feels like it needs to be stretched out.
I think the right answer is the Delta. If too long and want it more in the 45' range, go up one line size then cut down from the back taper and turn it into a head system. Would be an excellent, dryline and there seems to be used delta lines available in the classifieds or ebay often. If that's still too long, Pan's suggestion of the AFS is right on. AS far as scandi lines go, I prefer the Rio AFS to the Airflo Scandi or Scandi Short.

James
 

James Mello

Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"
#22
James- what would you suggest for a shortbelly spey or long scandi for a dry line- I also feel like the Rage is a tad clunky- feels like it needs to be stretched out.
Well, unfortunately the stuff I like isn't produced by Rio any more. I really like the Windcutter (floater, not the looped). For better turn over I would buy it one line size larger and cut it back a few feet. Worked pretty darn good. I like the Delta (short not long) just out of the box, though it floats like a soggy log.

For the Scandi stuff I like Vision's Scandi. It's pretty delicate though, so it doesn't turn over the heaviest of stuff. If you want a scandi to turn stuff over the Airflo Compact is a great choice. In addition I really like the AFS. But the only times I've cast them, the rod was 'overlined' for a Skandi (say one or even two line sizes heavier). I wouldn't worry about doing this, as the Skandi is usually pretty lightly lined versus what the rod can support.

Other than that, I've only got anecdotal info. Lots of people like the Ballistic lines from SRO. I plan on getting a few of them, so if I get a hold of a few, you'll be more than welcome to try it.....
 
#24
Thanks Guys- those lines all sound like what I'm looking for...

Delta
WA 45
Vector
AFS
Vision

I have 3 CND GPS lines and they are fabulous- my temptation is to remove part of the rear taper and make them into shooting heads- but I hate to chop such a fine line - and I need a long midbelly- I'll probobly end up with Delta or one of the above mentioned for a shortbelly and Vision Ace or AFS for Scandi - These lines are mostly for dry line presentations only and to practice casting when the wind is not blowing- When it comes to the steelhead fishing the wind is usually blowing and I cast Skagit and tips year round. If anyone wants to trade for a Rage I might be open to any of the above.
 
#25
I have 3 CND GPS lines and they are fabulous- my temptation is to remove part of the rear taper and make them into shooting heads- but I hate to chop such a fine line - ...
It's hard for me not to cut a fly line, I just can't help myself! Lines are built to meet the demands of a lot of different rod types and casters, it only makes sense to tune them to your personal liking and needs.

Just cut it...it is so liberating!

James.
 
#27
I did chop the 10/11 from the rear enough to lighten it for my 15' 8/9 but my 8/9 and 6/7 havent even had much if any snipped off the front. How do they compare to the Delta long?
 

James Mello

Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"
#28
I did chop the 10/11 from the rear enough to lighten it for my 15' 8/9 but my 8/9 and 6/7 havent even had much if any snipped off the front. How do they compare to the Delta long?
GPS is a superior line all around. It floats, it throws tight loops, and it floats.....