being crude

Lugan

Joe Streamer
Edit: I'm jealous of the British. They have turned cursing in to an art that I can only dream to achieve.
That's actually true of most European languages. They tend to use very creative and visually descriptive terms as insults, descriptions of he opposite sex, etc. But Americans lack that creativity and fall back to f-bombs: "F--- you a--hole!"..."Dude, she's F---in' hot!" Etc.
 
This is a flyfishing forum. It does not demand anything from you other than you're opinion. My opinion is that crude, rude or vulgar language adds nothing, in fact it makes you seem ignorant. I'll leave it at that.
Thank goodness you have the freedom to use as little vulgarity as you see fit.

I can see why you might assume that use of vulgarity might make a person seem uneducated in your eyes.
However, I can assure you that assuming that someone is ignorant based on a few f words they toss into their statements is the true ignorance. If I had underestimated the opinions of others (or assumed they were ignorant) because of their occasional use of foul language, I might have missed out on knowledge from some of the wisest people I've ever known.
 

Josh

dead in the water
Words in this thread are worse than any I've ever heard because they are trying to justify rudeness.
As I said 7 pages ago: "Meh."

It doesn't take vulgarity to be rude and vulgarity doesn't automatically mean rudeness. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Which is more rude:

"We don't serve your kind here."

or

"Holy shit, look who's here! I love this guy! How the hell are you bro?"
 
As I said 7 pages ago: "Meh."

It doesn't take vulgarity to be rude and vulgarity doesn't automatically mean rudeness. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Which is more rude:

"We don't serve your kind here."

or

"Holy shit, look who's here! I love this guy! How the hell are you bro?"

+1000
 
Ya know...this thread has really given me pause to reflect on my use of swear words....I'm clearly not using them often enough. I'll work on it. Thank you for the encouragement! I'm done here.
i dont feel this site is a place to swear. do it at home or somewhere private. i have visited this site much less in the last year other than the classified partially because of it. i do swear but you will never hear me. thanks, mike w
 
This has gone way past what Rob originally mentioned. I think Rob is correct! We don't need to use foul language, if we choose too it's our choice and it does say something about us. If vulgar language is your trip go for it but I'll always consider you someone to ignore.
 
This has gone way past what Rob originally mentioned. I think Rob is correct! We don't need to use foul language, if we choose too it's our choice and it does say something about us. If vulgar language is your trip go for it but I'll always consider you someone to ignore.

Ignoring everyone who ever uses a curse word is certainly your right. Be prepared to live in a pretty lonely world if that's the route you choose.
 
It's not about names Jerry, you should know this. It's about civility. A civil society does not use vulgarity or personal insults to further it's cause...or it's opinion!
Who are you to dictate what a civil society does? Do you live in a civil society? Do people use vulgarity there?
Perhaps a civil society doesn't use drugs, alcohol, or nicotine either? Perhaps it's not civil to gamble? Perhaps it's not civil to hook fish in the lip for sport?
 
I was fishing with a mentor and good friend who is a decade and a half or so older then me this past weekend.
I've never seen him lose his cool on the river, he's a great guide and teacher and has a ton of patience.
He's got no problem rolling his eyes at my outbursts and sometimes I even feel guilty over it. I'll be more "adult" next time.
Anyway, this past weekend my friend farmed a monster mint coastal chrome steelhead,
fish of the year, fish of a lifetime for some and he just flipped and lost it.
Stomping on his hat, kicking and stomping and the most endless stream of profanity I've ever heard in my life.
I had to slink off back to my spot in case he decided it was my fault for not finding a way to land the fish from a hundred yards downstream. I could see the scenario brewing.

Anyway, point is, I was totally thrilled. Skunked and gloating. "Human factor buddy, you'll get him next time" as I muster up the stones to walk back up the run.
After all, what are friends for?

I've never been as interested in the mindless stupidity and choose my friends accordingly. With the exception of having to occasionally take a second choice fishing spot or pack out some extra left behind garbage, I try not to let any group affect the outcome of my day dramatically.