Wild Steelhead on the menu at Kalaloch Lodge.

#16
I know. But I remember when the damn decision was made. There was a very cool bumper sticker then, "Save our fish. Can Judge Boldt." It's the only bumper sticker I have ever put on one of my vehicles. Just sayin'...
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#17
There is plenty wrong with buying hatchery steelhead. The nets used to catch them kill wild fish too.

Go Sox,
cds
You can't stop the Indians from netting fish. If they can't sell them they will just rot away. I know it's no good to try to stop them from selling wild fish. It is what they do to survive. And it's their way of life.

You can all thank the Courts for giving the Indians what they wanted.
Beating it to death here stops some but not all.
 

Old Man

Just an Old Man
#18
It's a sad situation but as I have said many times before, if we don't do something about the Boldt decision, we are screwed. The natives will do as they please and thumb their noses at the rest for something that happened more than 200 years ago. I don't know any congressmen or senators but maybe someday someone who really cares will do something about the process of overturning that decision. I'll be in the ground by then but maybe my grandchildren will see that day.
If the treaty was signed 200 years ago. Then make them fish the way they did back then. They didn't have Gill Nets back then. They used weirs and spears.
 
#19
I added some contact info for the ONP and Kalaloch Lodge on my first thread on the bottom to help make the call, email, or letter easier. Thanks to all of you who decide to make the effort.
 

FlyinFish

Active Member
#20
Also suggest posting on their Facebook page. Lostriver, could post your photo on their page and include your first hand conversation with the chef about it being wild? That would spark the topic. If not, I can post for you if that's okay.
 

JesseC

Active Member
#23
You can't stop the Indians from netting fish. If they can't sell them they will just rot away. I know it's no good to try to stop them from selling wild fish. It is what they do to survive. And it's their way of life.

You can all thank the Courts for giving the Indians what they wanted.
Beating it to death here stops some but not all.
Jim, there's nothing worse than a proponent in apathy. If you don't want to help out - feel free to make yourself cozy on the sidelines.

My opinion is that it's a winnable PR campaign. The public, and the northwest in particular, have never been so conservation minded. Simply having Steelhead listed on the Monterrey Bay endangered list would do wonders. We should target big wins like that and most of the "green, sustainable, local, koom by yah" restaurants will fall in line.

But yeah - we might as well just forget it. Way more important things to discuss.... like how cold it is in Montana for instance.
 
#24
The picture I took is free to use as you wish. I would say the more people who see it the better. Thanks to those of you who have responded to this.
 

FlyinFish

Active Member
#25
Posted on their Facebook page. I'd recommend others comment their as well. You'll notice that quite a few people ask them questions on their FB page, and they do respond, so they will see it and so will others. Please go there and gently and kindly tell them how you feel.
 
#26
Just posted on their facebook page. Hopefully, they will fear a hit on the pocketbook and change their menu. And to thonk that just last week a local tribal leader was wailing about the loss of steelhead again. A different river to be sure, but the causes remain the same.
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#27
Do un-clipped steelhead taste better than clipped steelhead? There is a possibility here that the Kalaloch staff doesn't know the difference between a steelhead and a fence post...and one is legal to harvest and sell.
 

Jeremy Floyd

fly fishing my way through life
#28
Jim,

You don't want anyone using weirs.. You can catch every fish that way. In my mind, it is basically on par with Vilna for a run of salmon..
 

cabezon

Sculpin Enterprises
#30
As I have stated before, the non-tribal interests in this situation are holding an incredibly weak hand legally and frankly in the court of public opinion. I do not think that the "stick" approach will be successful. Perhaps we should explore the "carrot" approach. Can non-tribal interests, whether they are fishermen or conservation groups, purchase the rights to "live" fish from a tribe? Essentially, we pay the tribal fishers to NOT kill steelhead which then go to gravel, make lots of babies that will make more steelhead. If a tribe were interested in this deal, how much would they want and how would the money be collected?

Steve