OP This Weekend

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Geriatric Skagit Swinger
#31
Do you think that if the Skagit, Skykomish, Sauk, Snoqualmie, Puyallup, Nisqually, Nooksack, & Green rivers offered the kind of returns of steelhead they did in the 70's
Well, as for the Skagit, the two years in the 70s that we have numbers for read as such:
  • 1978 - Escapement = 5,757
  • 1979 - Escapement = 2,982
Fast forward thirty some years:
  • 2011 - Escapement = 5,655
  • 2012 - Escapement = 6,185
So...why aren't we fishing the Skagit?
 
#32
Honestly I should have known better then to bring up that article..That would mean that some of these fat boys with bobbers would actually have to read and of course how could you do that when it would interrupt your internet porn?

Rose shits more then you have ever done for any river Phat.. OP is whored out because um lets see...None of you have a clue how to fish anywhere else...and your puffy jackets, straight brimmed hat and gopro's can't understand why your fat boy fishing method ain't catching nothing like it does on them hatchery rivers!! Dah....

Fucking tool....read something before you beek off~~~ it's not the rags that are the problem..it's you jerk off pretenders on here!!!

You are too funny Golfie! Except I love Internet porn and puffy jackets. Don't worry I'm not offended. I remember when you thought a coho was a steelhead :)

Batter up!

Ps Doug Rose is a saint wishing him the best!
 
#33
Honestly I should have known better then to bring up that article..That would mean that some of these fat boys with bobbers would actually have to read and of course how could you do that when it would interrupt your internet porn?

Rose shits more then you have ever done for any river Phat.. OP is whored out because um lets see...None of you have a clue how to fish anywhere else...and your puffy jackets, straight brimmed hat and gopro's can't understand why your fat boy fishing method ain't catching nothing like it does on them hatchery rivers!! Dah....

Fucking tool....read something before you beek off~~~ it's not the rags that are the problem..it's you jerk off pretenders on here!!!
Are you talking to me? Surely you can't be talking to me because you seem to have made several jumps in your logic and thought process from the singular statement I made. What resulted seems to be a convoluted breakdown on your end. Talk about putting words in one's mouth. Go back and read what you have written, it is jumbled bullshit, and if someone were to say this to me in conversation I would be inclined to think they had missed a dose of their sanity pills. Have you Mr. Golf?? Again, it IS the mags and online superstars that are the problem, not Doug Rose. I thoroughly enjoy reading Rose's writings, both on his blog and in print and now that he has been diagnosed with cancer I'm not sure we will see too much more from him.

If you ever do see me on the river, please try and spit out the same rant to my face. I will gladly lay you out on the gravel bar. :)
 

James Mello

Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"
#35
I agree. Painting Doug Rose as part of the problem is about as far from reality as you could be. Poor guy is battling for his life while internet tough guys are calling him out for "whoring" the OP? Unbeleiveable. Disrespectful. Misinformed.
I read it, and frankly, I'd prefer it to not be specific on some of the rivers in question.
 
#36
Ever since I started gear fishing a lot more, mostly because my favorite riffles are loaded with Spey frothers 24/7
We should fish together again sometime :cool:

Lots of bullshit in this thread. I've managed to sneak in some days on the water in the past couple weeks, and just tailed my 7th fish since February started yesterday. Other dudes need to get out, somewhere, cast a line, and/or get laid.

I'll be rockin my puffy jacket on the water next week, internet porn at the ready on my smart phone if anyone wants a swig from the flask.
 
G

golfman65

Guest
#37
It was a steelho sean...hush child!!

and here in lie's the problem...haunted you must be reading or seeing only fly sites as the old guard are plastering their faces all over the net with dead wild fish from the queets etc. DEAD WILD FISH...great spoon job herzog...oh it's not wild it's a miss clip!!!

goddamn I have a puffy jacket but i wear it under my "normal" fishing jacket..I bend the hell out of brim too...sorry grew up in gangland..little white boys playing pretend got smacked down!!!

Look forward to the gravel bar pp...I didn't jumble anything..that's exactly what you said..accused him of blabbing rivers when he only said..If you are one of the idiots with stone faces marching on the rivers maybe you should re evaluate why your out there!!! Told you to go fish the old spots where history happened and maybe get your mind right...Jump on him when he's down..

pathetic...
 
#38
and here in lie's the problem...haunted you must be reading or seeing only fly sites as the old guard are plastering their faces all over the net with dead wild fish from the queets etc. DEAD WILD FISH...great spoon job herzog...oh it's not wild it's a miss clip!!!
They don't clip anything in the Queets system. Chances are that it was actually a hatchery fish. There are no mis-clips in there.
 
#39
I am not haunted, just overcrowded. Therefore i disdain anything that could possibly draw or remind folks of the mediocre fishing out here. I like people as individuals but loath them in a mob. and its gear and fly rags both. I mean i could write an article on chetco kings and I've never even fished them, buy I've seen enough articles on the covers of fishing rags at the quickly Mart. Point is all the stories have been run twenty times. Nothing new, just more pressure. Its just a place for slick ads. Enjoy, but enjoy quietly. Furthermore i don't roll around stone faced, stoned perhaps,but
One thing for certain is i am happy as anyone to fish and share on an individual basis.
Sop,

I can understand where you're coming from. I think one important thing to keep in mind is that the audience is just as important a part of the equation. If I lived out there, I would probably be a little frustrated too by the crowding. I think some of the blame goes on magazines publishing hot-spot articles, but a lot of the problem lies in the fact that all the PS rivers are closed right now! Where else are people supposed to go fish? If I didn't have a girlfriend and some other responsibilities that hold me back, I have to admit I would be out there every weekend. The thing is, I won't be out there with a go-pro and copy of Flyfisherman magazine as my only source of info on the rivers. You would find me in my Vanagon, Delorme open on the steering wheel, avoiding potholes on some dirt road or hiking up a trail at the end of the road. I think to an extent, you can't blame the magazines for the fact that people are just downright lazy.

The thing I like about the Drake (and Flyfish Journal), if I may, is that Rose's story wasn't accompanied by maps, regulations, gps points of put ins, etc, etc. In fact, the biggest thing I took from that article was stopping in at the store in Forks to take a look at the painting of Wentworth's fish. I already knew what rivers to fish, because I talk to people, pore over maps, read between the lines in books. If we appreciate writers like Rose, McGuane, and Combs (all of whom were featured in the last Drake), then I think it's important to have a magazine like that which will help support them in their craft. Without it, we aren't going to be able to read the writing of these kinds of guys, at least not in print form.

Just some thoughts. Not saying you have to agree, but I think there are positives to the issue as well.
 
#42
We should fish together again sometime :cool:

Lots of bullshit in this thread. I've managed to sneak in some days on the water in the past couple weeks, and just tailed my 7th fish since February started yesterday. Other dudes need to get out, somewhere, cast a line, and/or get laid.

I'll be rockin my puffy jacket on the water next week, internet porn at the ready on my smart phone if anyone wants a swig from the flask.
I want a swig from the flask!
 
#43
Well, as for the Skagit, the two years in the 70s that we have numbers for read as such:
  • 1978 - Escapement = 5,757
  • 1979 - Escapement = 2,982
Fast forward thirty some years:

  • 2011 - Escapement = 5,655
  • 2012 - Escapement = 6,185
So...why aren't we fishing the Skagit?
Interesting. Where are those numbers from? Are those wild & hatchery aggregate or just natives?
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#45
Its someone with the dorkiest accessory on the planet.
Hey fuck you I love my Go Pro. Gadgets are cool. Sorry you nubs can't catch fish unless you're alone in a stocker pond. Tough fucking shit. You should take up trap shooting or something.

Except for the beginning (you know before the left turn at the all night diner), this thread is almost complete BS. Shit talking a dude with cancer? Nice.

And I am driving from Walla Walla to fish the OP shortly, so grease up the boat bumpers in the hog line...my fat ass is squeezing in line.

:D

(*Walks back to house, knowing the Troll will be well fed tonight*)