Vise Height / Tying posture?

#1
My middle aged back is asking me to find a better tying posture but the middled aged eyes want to be closer even while using magnifiers. Been trying different heights but can't seem to find anything that lets me enjoy long evenings at the desk. Standing worked great until I tried to walk after a few hours of tying. Suggestions?
 

Preston

Active Member
#4
A.K. Best says that the best height for the vise is one where the arms can hang comfortably down from the shoulders, making it only necessary to raise the forearms. I've noticed at fly tying events where I will often tie for many hours at a stretch that this relationship is usually critical. At most tying events the typical chair seat to table top distance is guaranteed to quickly lead to the old pain-between-the-shoulder blades syndrome. At such events, I try to (and usually do) remember to bring along enough pillows/pads to raise my seating position to something approximating this ideal. At home, I usually tie at a rather high workbench and have found that either standing, or sitting on a rather tall barstool, works best for me.
 

Jeff Dodd

Active Member
#5
I use the magnifier visor and just switched lenses to a 3 magnification. (4x before that)

The new lense, with lower magnification, changed thefocal point, (further away) allowing me to sit up and maintain the desired head posture, all without raising the vise.

-Avoid a head posture where you bend or drop your neck forward. Attempt to maintain a head position with your ears centered over your shoulders.

- position the vise vertically to a position that allows you to tie with elbows down and no shrugging shoulders to reach the vise. If you find you must shrug your shoulders to reach your tying position, this will lead to pain between your shoulder blades and/or neck pain.

I sit in an old wood chair that came with my rolltop desk. I like it but I have added a seat pad and occasionally a small pillow for lumbar support.

Hope some these tips help improve your tying comfort!

Jeff
 

dogsnfish

Active Member
#6
Good thread, especially with my back. My spouse bought me a giraffe system 4 or 5 years ago. Love it. Can sit comfortably with out straining to see the fly. The light is also nice. Can't say I would have dropped the $$ to buy one, but if mine broke now I would replace it immediately. I even take the magnifier and base with me in my trailer when I camp out in N ID for the summer.
 

Jeff Dodd

Active Member
#7
My middle aged back is asking me to find a better tying posture but the middled aged eyes want to be closer even while using magnifiers. Been trying different heights but can't seem to find anything that lets me enjoy long evenings at the desk. Standing worked great until I tried to walk after a few hours of tying. Suggestions?
Rereading your post, 1. You have a good sense of humor!
2. You might try a flexible ARM magnifier mounted to the desk. This might give you the higher magnification you require, yet still allow you to hold your head in a comfortable neutral position.

Would be nice if you could borrow one to try before commuting to buy!
 

Dr Bob

Active Member
#8
I use a padded office chair that you can adjust, height, seat back, etc. I add to this one of those sofa pillows for a little softer seat. I adjust my height to the vise so my arms follow the AK Best guidelines. The other thing I do is remind myself to move close to the vise and sit back against the chair. I found the tendency to lean forward when tying flies was one major cause of my back, shoulder and neck pain. I can now tye flies for several hours without much discomfort. Nothing is perfect.

Dr Bob
 

RustE

drifting about
#11
If the vise isn't high enough, try a few pieces of wood underneath. I typically have to make computer monitors taller with this method.

Anyone know where to find the AK Best guidelines mentioned above?