It's That Time

nailbender

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#5
The Sandlance has long been called Candlefish in Puget Sound.My Grandfather always called them that. All the Oldtimers at the boat houses (when we still had them) refered to these fish as Candlefish.

Doug
 

Jack Devlin

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#6
Doug,
Maybe so but incorrect. A sand eel/lance won't "burn" like a true candlefish hence the name "candlefish".
This is a candlefish, Thaleichthys pacificus. More fish like and has an adipose fin.
Alaskans know the difference.
A question comes to mind: what name is used by Puget Sounders for true Candlefish? (Please don't say "Sand Lance".:) They are sometimes called ooligan (sp), eulachon (sp).
Jack

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Jack Devlin

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#9
So the Chum smolt are out of the sound?
Not so. Don't put your "Chum Babies" in mothballs yet.
I was amazed at how many chum fry we have seen in the last few days. School after school in the South Sound areas I fish. Today saw them in the 2.75 "to 3" length. Glad to see so many in the waters I regularly fish. Plenty of food for the cutts and hopefully enough will make it back so there will be one or two that will take my fly. :)
Jack
 

Smalma

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#10
Jack has nailed the "candlefish".

While chum fry are found in Puget Sound well into the summer by the time they reach 2 to 3 inches in length they move off shore and are typically found suspended in deep water. Could the "chum fry" have been another salmon? It is about time for the hatcheries to be releasing Chinook and coho smolts; that size sounds about right for "90 day" Chinook smolts.

Curt
 

nailbender

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#11
Doug,
Maybe so but incorrect. A sand eel/lance won't "burn" like a true candlefish hence the name "candlefish".
This is a candlefish, family Ammodytidae . More fish like and has an adipose fin.
Alaskans know the difference.
A question comes to mind: what name is used by Puget Sounders for true Candlefish? (Please don't say "Sand Lance".:) They are sometimes called ooligan (sp), eulachon (sp).
Jack

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I have always known these as columbia river smelt
 
#14
Jack has nailed the "candlefish".

While chum fry are found in Puget Sound well into the summer by the time they reach 2 to 3 inches in length they move off shore and are typically found suspended in deep water. Could the "chum fry" have been another salmon? It is about time for the hatcheries to be releasing Chinook and coho smolts; that size sounds about right for "90 day" Chinook smolts.

Curt
Hi Curt,
The "chum fry" I looked at today were, I'm really sure, indeed chum. The waters I was fishing are well known to me and these are "wild" fish. The small salmon I have been catching were I'm pretty sure cohos and were 4".
In my haste to return them to the water I didn't get any photos.
Thanks, Curt. Good to have an "expert" on board the good ship WFF:)
Jack

Yesterday, 5/12, I took a good friend of mine, a fisheries guy, fishing and we happened to catch one of the smolts - 5 inches. He most definitely identified it as a coho. We stopped fishing in that area so we wouldn't catch any more or injure any.
Good to see the cohos.
Jack
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#15
I sometimes fish with my buddy for sturgeon on the Fraser. We use them as bait, and they call them Eulechons.
Evan,
Yes, Eulachon. I had to look up the spelling. I always get it wrong. Dictionary says "another name for Candlefish".

This might be a good time to explain my pet peeve about the name Candlefish.
I am familiar with the Candlefish as a result of my involvement in Northwest Coast style native American wood carving. Many of the bowls/dishes I make are called oil/grease dishes. They were used to hold oil rendered from the candlefish. Dried salmon was dipped into the oil to make the fish more palatable. The candlefish were captured in large quantities and boiled and rendered in large "vats".
Thanks,
Jack