A rookies log.

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#48
Daniel,

Congrats on your new rod acquisition. Had I seen your earlier post I would have advised you to keep and fish the TFO. There's nothing wrong with the Sage rod, but at what appears to be your stage of the game, I'll just tell you that you're wearing a $240 smile on your face and have done nothing to up your steelheading game.

Let me share that I have quite a few rods. They range in price from $59 Cabela's Three Forks models to a $2,200 Bob Clay bamboo that I was fortunate to obtain for slightly less. The expensive rods, the bamboo ones anyway, do put a smile on my face, and I love casting and fishing with them. However they do not make me a better angler, even in the slightest.

I suggest that you add this post to your fishing log. As long as money is an issue, I recommend that you invest in products and services that will up your game. When the money doesn't matter, that is the best time to invest in putting a smile on your face that doesn't improve your fishing.

Sg
I assume the products and services you are describing is a fishing guide. But what products do you suggest that actually ups my game as you say?
 
#49
One thing to note that I have learned from a rookies perspective is that feeling a rod there in the store does not tell you anything. I have found that a rod feels completely different once the reel and line are on. This brings another point also why benefits to go to a local fly shop who will let you actually cast before you buy.
 
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Evan Virnoche

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#50
One thing to note that I have learned from a rookies perspective is that feeling a rod there in the store does not tell you anything. I have found that a rod feels completely different once the reel and line are on. This brings another point also why benefits to go to a local fly shop who will let you actually cast before you buy.
Pacific fly fishers in Mill creek
 

Salmo_g

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#53
Daniel.

Most fly fishermen are crazy, so don't worry. You're in good company altho your wife may disagree. I think the place you need to begin is with an 8 wt rod that you like to cast. If you don't know how to fly cast, then whatever 8 wt a casting instructor says isn't a POS will do fine for starters. I'm not familiar with your specific rod, but I can't imagine that the TFO Pro won't serve you well.

What I meant by products and services that will up your game is things like instead of buying a $400 rod, buy a $100 rod and $300 worth of casting lessons. Same cost, but the latter will put you many miles ahead. An expensive rod is a lousy investment for a person who can't cast worth shit. And good rods don't make newbs into good casters. Most any ole rod and instruction and practice to develop good technique is what makes a good caster.

Now that you've got a rod, you need a line. Unlike fly rods, the cheapest fly lines are unwise investments. The good news is that you don't need the most expensive line either. My rule of thumb is to avoid lines of lesser quality than SA Air Cell Supreme (which may be discontinued, so whatever replaced it) and Cortland 444 Peach floating lines are high quality, durable, have slick finishes that cast well.

The cheapest reel that I know of and will vouch as steelhead serviceable is the Pflueger Medalist. Size 1495 will hold 100 yd of 20# dacron backing and a WF8F line. I have 3 Pfluegers, but confess to not using them. I've spent untold dollars on reels that put a smile on my face, but they don't play and land steelhead any better.

When you get a reel, get a spare spool. You could buy a multi-tip fly line and have one reel with one spool, but life is more fun with a floating line that doesn't have the tip section looped on. The second spool should have a floating line, either cut and looped for multiple tip sections or make your own. DIY is what I've been doing for decades, so I don't own any store bought multi-tip lines except a Spey line I won in a raffle. I like an SA Air Cell Supreme cut back 15' from the tip and looped. There are numerous ways to do this. My way is simple and works well. Dip the line in acetone (nail polish remover) and strip about 2 1/2" of PVC finish off. Fry 1/2" of the nylon line core to separate the fibers. Wind and whip finish 1/2 to 5/8" with fly tying thread to form a loop. The wound part is stiff, and the loop is droopy and limp. Coat the whole shebang with Pliobond cement, let dry, then add a second coat. Now the loop is pliable but stiff enough to not hinge when casting. Make a floating tip with the section you cut off. Make, or just buy some 15' RIO sink tips in Type III, VI, and VIII. Add 4' of 10# Maxima leader material, knot a fly to the tippet, and you're set to fish.

Sg
 

hydrological

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all the above is a great idea, but you might see if your local fly shop offers that service, watch closely and next time you can diy. likely they will do it for a minimal cost, especially if you boy a line and some tips there. tell them you are done with cabelas, and you will both be smiling.
 
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all the above is a great idea, but you might see if your local fly shop offers that service, watch closely and next time you can diy. likely they will do it for a minimal cost, especially if you boy a line and some tips there. tell them you are done with cabelas, and you will both be smiling.

Yeah I would say that I really am done with Cabelas. Honestly there selection is not very good over there. I asked about the RIO multi tip line set in 8 wt and he did not even know they existed. Just to get everyone else caught up I have all the other gear I need like line and a reel and stuff. NOW I do not know if the reel I have is "good" or not. It is about 3 years old and is an Okuma SLV. If you guys say not to run this reel then I wont.
 
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