NFR: Any Audi owners?

#16
good post as I just bought a '99 A4 1.8 turbo for the kid. it has 73K and I am/was/still am worried about maintenance down the road. We've only had it for a month and he likes the mileage it is getting (compared to the '96 Explorer he was driving). I am noting the PM schedules, timing belt and water pump
Make sure to be diligent about the oil changes on that 1.8t; always use synthetic oil too. Those early 1.8t in the A4 and Passat had problems with oil sludge. They have a reduced oil capacity due to the longitudinally mounted engine, and the turbo causes higher oil temps that are a little hard on dino oil.
 

freestoneangler

Not to be confused with Freestone
#17
Nope, but have had the A4 and A6 TDI's as rental cars while in Germany...they are a blast to drive! I kept thinking the hatchback would be a great fishing rig...if I was to ever move from a truck to a hipster rig.
 

steelydan

Newb seeking wisdom
#18
Make sure to be diligent about the oil changes on that 1.8t; always use synthetic oil too. Those early 1.8t in the A4 and Passat had problems with oil sludge. They have a reduced oil capacity due to the longitudinally mounted engine, and the turbo causes higher oil temps that are a little hard on dino oil.
Use a full synthetic that meets VW502 oil spec.
It's the turbo oil line that cokes....can be replaced without too much trouble.
Also, use the upgrade/upsized diesel oil filter...The additional surface area acts as an oil cooler.
 
#20
Walmart is your friend. You can get 5 quart jugs for around $25, and that car only takes 4(.2, maybe). It also lasts longer than conventional oil so you can go 5-7000 between oil changes. I wouldn't change it at 3000 miles with synthetic, you will be throwing away perfectly good oil.
 
#21
Yeah, forgot the synthetic oil bit, and I always use premium gas too. I have not tested, but studies suggest that if you were to use regular unleaded, you'd lose fuel efficiency, and end up spending more money on regular than premium, over time, due to fuel economy. And, the engines are designed to burn better gas, so they just work better, and save you in the long run.
 
#22
I agree, definitely use the right gas!

A lot of naturally aspirated engines don't really need premium and will run fine without it. Maybe some lost fuel efficiency, so there is some balance there with price vs. efficiency.

I would not consider running a turbo engine on anything but premium. The computer can compensate for low octane induced knocking by reducing boost and retarding ignition timing, but I think the effiency loss on a turbo engine is going to be higher. Not to mention higher potential for real engine damage due to higher cylinder pressures which is more likely to contribute to knocking compared to a normally aspirated engine.

92 octane is usually about $0.20/gal more than regular. Even at 20mpg and 15k miles per year, that is only $150 more for premium per year. Skimping on fuel costs for a car that requires premium seems pennywise, pound foolish to me.
 

Ron Olsen

Active Member
#23
Have a 2001 A4 1.8 turbo quattro. All the above is accurate. Had it chipped so need to run premium fuel. That gave a significant uptick in performance, and added 2-3 mpg. Get 24 in town, and 29-30 highway. Use syn oil, change every 5,000. They do like to eat suspension parts and bearings though replacement costs are not too high. The older 1.8's also like a steady diet of oil. Not unusual to use a quart every 1,000 miles, and Audi will say that is within tolerances. Be sure to get the Bose system, perhaps the best part of the car! They are fun to drive, relatively economical, and importantly, very safe.
Ronbow
 

Lugan

Joe Streamer
#24
Until recently I owned a 2000 A4 Avant from mile 1 until selling it a year ago. IMHO they are too delicate and expensive to fix if you want to do a lot of outdoor activities with it. I'm glad I have an Outback now. Then again, maybe they are better now.
 
#25
Late to this thread but, as an ex-Audi owner ("ex" being the operative word)... A brief reply on my Audi A6 Avant: within 38K miles, 5 emission failures, 6 full scale electrical failures, two brake "anomalies", 3 sets of brake pads, rotor changes, leaking rear engine seal, leaking rear end, leaking transmission, failing lights, constant engine check light and failing turn signals...and that's just the beginning. The worst part is that when I went to Audi USA to seek a resolution they told me to shove it. Not quite word for word but damn close to it. They wouldn't buy the vehicle back at anything other than low blue book even if it was applied to a new Audi. Rude, abusive, caustic customer "care".

The car was dealer maintained, very comfortable, nice fit/finish on the interior, smooth and a reliability nightmare. A true POS. It's one thing when issues arise but its how you handle those issues that makes the difference. I will never, ever own another Audi. Traded it in on a Toyota, used, that I have put on another 87K with ZERO issues.

Audi can and will screw you if they have the opportunity.
 

martyg

Active Member
#28
Opted for a CPO Jetta TDi wagon. So far so good. I am loving 43mpg and the little turbo diesel is one torquey mother.

If a diesel AWD wagon hits the States I am in. Subaru and VW are both threatening to bring one in for 2015.
 

Bradley Miller

Dances with fish
#30
I drove a 2012 A4 Avant. It seems like a nice compromise between utility and a sportier driving experience.

Any feedback from owners?

Thanks in advance.

I concur with the comments re: synthetic oil... it is money well spent. I am an Audi fan, though not an owner. Just google your Audi
and look for technical service bulletins: they can be very helpful in spotting troublesome 'pattern failures' in most models of all makes.
I found 48 for the Avant you are looking at. Sorry, not an Audi owner.....just an admirer!