Question for the guys who also 'pin

#61
I use braid on my level winds no problem. Bump it up to get larger diameter. Light tackle for me is 40# braid. You should never lose anything but your terminal tackle fishing this way, it is beautiful.

I don't like center pins personally, I figure if I want a challenge, I am going to swing flies.
 
#62
Seems like plenty of folks have no issues with braid. Evan and others have nailed my experience too closely to make me think its coincedence. I'm fairly certain I must be doing something wrong.

I'm kinda leaning towards maybe when I spool it up I need to do something differently, like Brian mentioning using a base of mono.
 
#63
It has landed 26 steelhead in the last 3wks. Muchas mojo going on with Bobber Downey Jr.
So reading this I gotta ask;

When is it swinging conditions? Seems like you have been pinning right through prime time.

And for all the Francis' out there I'm just asking, not judging. I like anybody who fishes....
 

ten80

Active Member
#64
I took the scissors to 30-lb powerpro spooled on my baitcaster... it made a freaking condor's nest of my reel when I hooked the boat on my back swing. I think that a smooth braid will dig less into itself than a rougher one like the original Powerpro. I have 40-lb smooth PP (forgot the catchy name) on a spinning reel and it is much better, but is not as tough and abrasion resistant.
 

ten80

Active Member
#67
or a fish cooler bag or a bush, all in the same season. Ask me how I know :eek:

At least with 15-lb mono there is a fighting chance of working out the birdsnest as the stiffer mono is easier to untangle than limp 30-lb braid.
 
#68
So reading this I gotta ask;

When is it swinging conditions? Seems like you have been pinning right through prime time.

And for all the Francis' out there I'm just asking, not judging. I like anybody who fishes....
If you must know, I swung nearly every run (sometimes with dries) that I've fished the past couple weeks. Sometimes with success, sometimes not. Sometimes I'd go through with several different flies and tips. Sometimes it caught fish, sometimes it didn't. I'd then pin through the run before moving on. The pin put up numbers when swinging produced very little. And I was pinning that much because I've been learning my casts and presentations. I got my pin last winter, but only used it on one trip until two weeks ago when I had more time to break it out and really figure it out.
 
#69
And I was pinning that much because I've been learning my casts and presentations. I got my pin last winter, but only used it on one trip until two weeks ago when I had more time to break it out and really figure it out.
how do you cast those things? I've never seen a CPer on any of the waters I fish. I can, however, see how it would be extremely useful in covering water effectively.
 
#70
how do you cast those things? I've never seen a CPer on any of the waters I fish. I can, however, see how it would be extremely useful in covering water effectively.
There are a lot of different casts. I recently found out that I don't set my rig up like most guys do and tend to have a lot more weight to work with, so I have kind of just figured a couple good casts out by trial and error. I found all the online resources and youtube videos to be extremely unhelpful. I think the casts I do are variations of the Wallis cast, and the BC Lob. You have to get the reel spinning and letting line out before you wing it out there. It feels really, really wrong until you do it a few times.
 
#72
If you must know, I swung nearly every run (sometimes with dries) that I've fished the past couple weeks. Sometimes with success, sometimes not. Sometimes I'd go through with several different flies and tips. Sometimes it caught fish, sometimes it didn't. I'd then pin through the run before moving on. The pin put up numbers when swinging produced very little. And I was pinning that much because I've been learning my casts and presentations. I got my pin last winter, but only used it on one trip until two weeks ago when I had more time to break it out and really figure it out.

Cool, cool. Always wonder if there was a fish there that just didn't want to play. Seems like a good way to figure that out!
 
#74
For our rivers which are much larger than most GL rivers the easiest and most efficient way is the BC swing. I love my pin gear and use it more and more over the years
 

Paul Huffman

Driven by irrational exuberance.
#75
Why is CP better than float fishing with much less expensive spinning gear?

Do some fly shops dabble in CP because the gear is so expensive?