Another 4 martini lunch quote...

FinLuver

Active Member
#1
Moody countered…

“There are examples of situations, of successes like that. If you look at where the biggest are, they are typically on wildfish…. the John Day, Umpqua, the Eel River in Northern California, those are great examples of great success stories.

“And they all don’t have hatcheries, and they don’t have dams.”
For all the "whiners"...here's the link... :p
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/art...nned-Native-Fish-Society-event?nclick_check=1
Now how many dams are there on the Eel and Umpqua systems??
NFS... geesh :)
 

Klickrolf

Active Member
#8
No martooni's here but the John Day is a wonderful example. No dams, no hatcheries...but it's flow has been altered hugely by irrigation withdrawals...but the fish remain healthy and robust and strong in numbers...and I've caught alot of hatchey fish on it but there is no hatchery!!
 

Joepa

Joe from PA
#9
I've caught alot of hatchey fish on it but there is no hatchery!!
Indeed. Lots of strays in that system, though I can't say that I've found the wild run to be very robust the last 2 years. I'd be very interested to know what the wild escapement has been the last few years on the JD.
 

FinLuver

Active Member
#10
No martinis here, can't stand them. Also, I could change my avatar, maybe a skunk or a golden demon, but you whiners couldn't handle it; besides, you would have to find another to put down...I think I'll absorb the toxin for my fellow man's sake.

Back to the NFS...continue "diggin' a hole" with your quotes. :D
 

flybill

Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!
#11
No martinis here, can't stand them. Also, I could change my avatar, maybe a skunk or a golden demon, but you whiners couldn't handle it; besides, you would have to find another to put down...I think I'll absorb the toxin for my fellow man's sake.

Back to the NFS...continue "diggin' a hole" with your quotes. :D
So Terry... please change your avatar as you wish.. I know we can handle it! Maybe I'll come down to the NFS meeting in Portland to support them and see what your group really does first hand.

Cheers!
Bill
 

Klickrolf

Active Member
#14
I just joined NFS too. Thought about it many times but this one forced me to become a member.

The economcs are lost on nearly everyone. Each hatchery fish costs how much? If the fish is harvested and sells for less than it cost then it can't continue indefinitely...well, it can if it's subsidized but that means were putting good money into something that always loses.
 
#15
If the fish is harvested and sells for less than it cost then it can't continue indefinitely...well, it can if it's subsidized but that means were putting good money into something that always loses.
Welcome to the United States governments logic regarding economics, more and more people are starting to wake up though