thanks for the welcome! I never eat any. just catch and release all the way. also fish for smallmouth bass in the same river but C&R them also. I will eat lake erie perch tho. heres a few more monsters and a few pics of spots we fish. the water don't seem dirty to me???? prolly not as clean as out west but good enough for us guys. its all we have. too me its very beautiful. I can't even begin to imagine the rivers out west! cherish your rivers for all they are worth! I do the same to mine!