A little evening tying

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  1. formerguide

    formerguide Active Member

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    Kids are watching The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe in the living room. My better half is sewing dresses, and the fireplace is warm and burning.

    Figured I'd pull up a chair and tie a few bugs for the next beach outing. Only one drink in, so they still look relatively tight (I'm a semi-competent tier at best...) This pattern was originally created by my friend (and best fly tier I've ever known) Dave Schmezer. This is a bastardization of his original pattern, which I've modified for our SRC fishery here.

    Thought I'd share before drink #3 and before they get really ugly!

    Dan

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    Those would work sweet in AK for silvers!
     
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  3. jdbutula

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    Nice ties! When I look that them I see big bull trout!
    Thanks for sharing
     
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  4. Nick Clayton

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    I really like that pattern, Dan! Got a recipe?
     
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  5. Josh Stroud

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    Nice looking flies, should be great for SRC fishing!
     
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  6. triploidjunkie

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    Haha. You tie like I do. The more beers in, the fuzzier they look:)
     
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    Pretty easy pattern to analyze, all synthetics. And most in only two drawers of my cabinet.:D
     
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    Great pattern,
    Looks like a have a date with the vice tonight.

    Nathan
     
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    Any pics of ties after #3 or #4?
     
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  10. PfleugerPhister

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    Is it a dead minnow? Cause they're gonna flip over and swim belly up...
     
  11. formerguide

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    Not in the least, the hook keels them, they don't invert when tied properly, been tying this pattern for years, FYI... Fished them today and managed a few!

    EDIT: As an aside on fly construction, where the wing is tied has as much to do with a fly inverting as does weight or placement of eyes. For example, on the above fly, if you were to tie all of the wing on the underside of the hook (ala a Clouser tied "high-style") the fly would invert, especially if you move the eyes forward a bit. Conversely, many poorly tied commercial bonefish flies tied with light bead chain will never invert as designed.

    Dan
     
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    I see. So in this instance, the hook and all material tied on the top will over come the dumbbell eyes and ride straight up?
     
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    Exactly. PM me your address and I'll be happy to send you one to try.

    The short shank hook also is less likely to invert. On a long shank hook, in essence you have more metal counter-balancing the weight of the bend of the hook, if that makes sense. You can also get a fly to invert by heavily weighting the hook shank with lead wraps, and again putting the wing on the bottom (takes some experimenting with this method...)

    Dan
     
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    tonemike fish'n glass

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    nice tie! i always enjoy the pictures of other guys' versions of a fly!
     
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    been tying clousers for a while

    good information.

    thanks.
     

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