A new way to tackle river access issues

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by National Rivers, Jan 15, 2014.


Is river access/usage an issue on rivers near you?

Yes 24 vote(s) 80.0%
No 5 vote(s) 16.7%
Not sure 1 vote(s) 3.3%
  1. National Rivers Member

    Posts: 26
    Ratings: +42 / 0
    Here's an update for those interested in river access and usage :)

    This past fall, we conducted surveys and found that people wanted more ways to take action on rivers in their area (no surprise!). Tangible ways for you to make an impact is NOR's focus for 2014, and here's the first release: Sending river law information packets to the government agency (or person) of your choice. What do the packets include? NOR’s groundbreaking resources: the poster, handout, Public Rights on Rivers book, and topped off by a NOR letter explaining the urgency of implementing and sharing this information with other law enforcement and locals. Learn more about this option by reading the blog, http://www.nationalrivers.org/river-law-info-packets.html

    We made a new page to go with this new option, showing where info packets have been sent. Check it out at http://www.nationalrivers.org/packets-sent.html

    It’s a dramatically different approach from what you’ve probably heard before, but if you’re ready for change, take your stand and work with NOR to make it happen. Be empowered--help make rivers in your area and in our nation be "forever free."

    Look forward to teaming up!
  2. dogfishdan New Member

    Posts: 6
    Ratings: +0 / 0
    the river I live close to is the Wenatchee river, there are a lot of area open but the state has it shut down 99% of the time, would like to see it open like it was when I was young only selective
  3. jake-e-boy Active Member

    Posts: 448
    Ratings: +205 / 0
    won't happen, ESA listing and NOAA manages that river now
  4. National Rivers Member

    Posts: 26
    Ratings: +42 / 0
    Why does the state have it "shut down," and how is "shut down?" (fences, signs, etc.). There are many rivers that people recreated on when they were young, but have since become closed or hinder public use. That's why we exist, to stop and reverse the unlawful (under federal law) "shutting down" of navigable rivers in the US.
  5. jake-e-boy Active Member

    Posts: 448
    Ratings: +205 / 0
    river has plenty of access, he just complaining cause it been shutdown from 97-07 and now it only opens for hatch brat killfest if the ratio is right
    edit: and whitefish sometimes, nookies too but good luck getting one on the main stem, all about the icicle bait fest
  6. Travis Bille Active Member

    Posts: 646
    McKinleyville, CA
    Ratings: +357 / 0

    He means that the river access is good, but it is usually closed to fishing.
  7. Teenage Entomologist Gotta love the pteronarcys.

    Posts: 625
    Red Bluff, CA
    Ratings: +202 / 0
    Here in California, some people have the nerve to say this...( You know DAMN well where the property line is!) There's too much good fishing here to be shut down by private property.
  8. National Rivers Member

    Posts: 26
    Ratings: +42 / 0
    Thanks for the clarification. Another question, why is the river closed to fishing?
  9. Travis Bille Active Member

    Posts: 646
    McKinleyville, CA
    Ratings: +357 / 0

    I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think enough wild steelhead usually return to justify opening the fishing season.
  10. Richard Olmstead BigDog

    Posts: 2,483
    Seattle, WA
    Ratings: +786 / 0
    The fish are federally listed under the ESA. This isn't an issue of denying anyone access to the river.
  11. Freestone Not to be confused with freestoneangler

    Posts: 2,334
    Ratings: +1,170 / 0
    As Richard said, the river has ESA-listed steelhead and Chinook, but depending on the returns, NOAA can and has authorized fishing seasons but it must be reviewed each season to ensure fishing will not jeopardize recovery. It's a long, long story and we are extremely fortunate that any fishing is ever allowed given the imperiled status of the native fish.

    However, the river is one of the most heavily used in the state for private and commercial whitewater rafting along with kayaking, canoeing, SUP's, summer river tubing, etc. and access is not a problem even though there is a ton of private property.

    Thank you for your work in helping to ensure all river users enjoy the access and right of passage that we do here!
  12. Trustfunder Active Member

    Posts: 169
    rock creek
    Ratings: +71 / 0
    Can I ask is your organization only interested in river access issues? Or do you take on other issues like high water mark rights, property owners antagonizing fisherman, dewatering of a public resource for agriculture etc...?
  13. Kim McDonald member

    Posts: 289
    Seattle, WA
    Ratings: +138 / 0
    Actually, on the access for the Wenatchee...I noticed something new on East Leavenworth Road two weeks ago. On one of the favorite access points for floaters on Icicle (that feeds into the Wenatchee) the state has posted a Discover Pass is required in order to park...it's a small small sliver of a pull out, maybe five cars at most can park there. Don't know how that happened, if WDFW felt because of some of their riparian restoration work they can now expect a "fee" to access the small, and I mean small site.
  14. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

    Posts: 3,961
    Edgewood, WA
    Ratings: +705 / 1
    It would not surprise me at all to see more of this go on everywhere folks park to enjoy the outdoors. It will drive more folks to purchase the pass and increases citation prospects.
  15. National Rivers Member

    Posts: 26
    Ratings: +42 / 0
    All of the above actually!
  16. National Rivers Member

    Posts: 26
    Ratings: +42 / 0
    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who voted on the poll, helpful for us to know!