My name is Adam DeMarco owner of Paine Falls located in Ohio. I currently only make Centerpin reels if and when I can fit it in my schedule. Paine Falls reels sell from $475 USD and top out north of $1,000. Over the next year or two, I hope to release fly reels in the same price point just like most other North American reel manufacturers. So far, my one man operation employs myself and I have at least 10 suppliers within the United States that I have contributed to. I am a small volume manufacturer not a high volume manufacturer. My customers pick me, not the other way around. It works out pretty well. Now that everyone is aware of who I am and the motives that do not exist, I will say again, I am not bashing anyone. I clarified my comments and to what regard, yet we keep coming back to something that does not exist. If it was poor clarification on my behalf, I am sorry. I have no animosity towards Allen's or Orvis, they happened to be examples that related to the point I was trying to make. Like I said, how you spend your money is your decision. How a company executes thier business plan is their decision. Because you do not want to pay the cost for a reel produced in North America does not constitute it being a rip off. I am certain I will go back to lurking if I am not free to express my opinion or if I am not granted the decency to clarify a point I was trying to make. 1 post or 7,000 it shouldn't matter.