William, First of all, the content of my posts was not a personal attack on anyone. Addresing the dissemination of misinformation was the extent of my intent; no more, no less. If FT wished to convey a different meaning then it should have been worded so. Secondly, I have never posted any of Hywel's flies anywhere. Of the various sites his work is on display, it is the ultimately the responsibility of the web host to post the pics or not. Whether those individuals have nads or not is none of my concern. If my calling his work "masterpieces" is construed as me gushing, then so be it. Last time I checked I still have the right to an opinion. If you don't concur with mine, fine. I like his work, as do others, but not I'm nearly as impressed with his flies as I am with how quickly he has gained the skills necessary to tie as well as he does, which (also, in my opinion) is well above average. Lastly, through my response to FT's first post, I feel partially responsible for this thread diverging from the original topic. Sorry. Randy, I don't know how Master Tyers obtain their title. I don't even know any that have that title. We ought to start a list of contemporary and historical tyers and debate how each of their respective styles differ.