If you had looked at what wildlander had wrote you would noticed specifically what I was responding to. Like what i said earlier, these things do not mean that the earth is not warming, simply that it is not as dramatic as some say it is. The guy living in antarctica says global warming isn't even real. He has pretty good cred right there. Anyway I think we are mixing up the issue. I believe that global climate change is non-anthropogenic, you do. Whether or not the glaciers are melting has little to do with proving either side of that debate. You seem to mention delay a lot, do you have a problem with him? :clown: So I am christian, though i am not particularly religious and have not gone to church in 10 years, but I would still consider myself a christian. I do care about the environment. I carry a garbage bag when I am fishing to carry out any garbage I see, I volunteer for and donate to various conservation groups when I can. Do I need "agendas" to believe what I believe or do what I do? No.