Any insights into my frustration?

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by atdwash, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. atdwash New Member

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    A month ago I could throw just about anything within 20 feet of a jumping resident and I would get a strike. Not on just one outing, but consistently. All I needed to do was find some working fish and I could get into them.

    The last two outings I have again found fish, I have cast everything in my box in and around them, I continue to get many follows, but the strikes have fallen off the table. Yesterday in 3.5 hours of fishing (in and near active pods of fish) I only brought 5 fish to hand.

    Was I just spoiled last month or am I losing my mojo? Like I said, I have tried several patterns (just plain forget about poppers--they won't even look at them), and I have also been varying my retrieves.

    Any insights would be appreciated.
  2. DimeBrite MA-9 Beach Stalker

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    It's January, so lengthen the leader and start tossing small amphipod and krill patterns along with smaller baitfish flies for the resident coho. Also, keep a fish for dinner each time you fish and check its stomach contents to keep on top of their feeding habits.
  3. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    A little over a month ago I bonked a few fish and they all had empty stomachs. Shortly after that I took another and found that it had a full belly and amphipods were indeed in full swing. Up until the past couple weeks it seemed like they were just hungry as hell and would slam anything just as you said. I think they're settling into a more realistic feeding rhythm and DimeBrite is right on the money with fly choices.
  4. Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator

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    They are still hungry as hell! These fish are IMO a lot pickier than SRC's. They wont hit anything you throw out there. Clear lines, Long leaders, and small flies.

    We did really well swinging amphipods and had some takes on gurglers. Had another Double on one rod the other day.
  5. herl Member

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    Here's what they've been eating lately around Seattle:
    rescohocontents1.jpg rescohocontents2.jpg
  6. miyawaki Active Member

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    Ah, you just have to love the internet. Instead of using some good ol' observation and poking around in the water to discover the change in feed, we simply type a few words. Wow!

    Leland.
  7. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    Well, he did poke around, Leland... and shared with the crew ;)

    Nice pics, btw, I've been tying a little too big... thanks for the post.
  8. atdwash New Member

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    C'mon Leland, we are not talking about looking for specific beaches or skirting paying my dues on the water (I have been out on average almost once a week since the end of summer). This was just an observation, a little bit of a vent, and a invitation for insights/advice. What are forums like this for if not this type of discussion? AND now I won't have to bonk/dissect to see the feed (thanks Herl). So it's almost like conservation.;) Cyber-conservation.

    Thanks for the tips guys. I will go smaller with a longer leader and I'll let you know how I did (but I won't tell you what color ;)).

    And I have no problem with those of you who feel like sharing would be giving others the easy fix. That's what's great about threads like this, you are free to do (or don't do) as you please.
  9. hendersonbaylocal Member

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    small and sparse!
  10. Roger Stephens Active Member

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    atdwash:

    Were you by chance fishing at Doc's when you got frustrated? Over the last week or two it seems like it has been pretty common for other fly fishers to have the same experience there. It was easy to get spoiled by the ease of hooking resident coho there in the previous month or two. There are a lot of other beaches that are within easy driving distance of Doc's that are holding resident coho. Often a change of "scenery" is all that it takes to find willing resident coho.

    Resident coho are "eating machines" but from now until late summer they often are "keyed" into specific food sources. So it can be "match the hatch" situations. Like Leland said being observant of the type of surface activity which the resident coho are displaying is often the tip-off to what they are feeding on. It will help determine what fly patterns to use. In my experience, jumping resident coho = aggressive fish.

    Roger
  11. michaels Flogging the water, one beach at a time.

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    atdwash- I've had the same experience recently. Both at Doc's and other beaches things have really tapered off. The fish really seem to be keying in on something other than what's in my fly box. Although there are still a few jumpers showings, there's definitely an increase in the number of fish just dimpling the surface. Amphipod and Euphasiid patterns seem to be difficult to come by in fly shops, so hopefully you can tie some yourself or find a friend to set you up.
  12. atdwash New Member

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    Or... I could use another dirty trick and offer an outing on the boat tomorrow to anyone with the skills and the flies. I'm thinking about launching at Titlow (narrows marina) around 11 or noon tomorrow and fishing for a few hours. If you have some experience down that way and are free for the afternoon, shoot me a PM. All that I ask is that you have some experience and know how to cast (let's just say comfortable with the double-haul). I figure if you can do that, you know enough not to put one in my ear.
  13. miyawaki Active Member

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    Resident coho almost always get onto euphasids and amphipods this time of year. Observing rise forms and behavior, excluding "happy" jumpers, will tell you when to get off poppers and streamers. In the winter, besides my poppers, I've always carried my "Crazy Plankton" pattern, a #10 pearl crazy charlie variation, just in case.

    Leland.
  14. Ringlee Doesn't care how you fish Moderator

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    Hey we gave you all the info you need... Go tie up some flies and figure it out.

    The SEARCH function could help you out.
  15. atdwash New Member

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    I got it. The offer in the boat today was not so much a cheap way to glean info as it was an honest offer for someone who does not usually have that opportunity. And I do thank you guys for the tips. I will put them to the test.
  16. riseform Active Member

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    To paraphrase Tina Fey, "I can see Titlow from my house"... and I have great euphausiid and amphipod patterns. Too bad i have to work.
  17. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    atdwash, I think your boat offer was a great way to get anglers together, learn some flies and techniques and have a chance at some fish. I'd take you up on the offer any day we could arrange, but I'm less flexible on my schedule now that I'm not self employed. Regretably, I doubt that I have much to "offer" along the lines of the right flies, locations or such as I'm limited in my knowledge base. I will echo the search for the euphausiid and amphipod patterns here in the threads or galleries. If you have any local fly guides or books there will be much made of them in there as well. See them, replicate them and slay them. Best of luck when you get out there, let those of us with an interest know how you did.
  18. Tony Tony

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    I'll add, if you are going to docs, it seems that they are very very suspicious (elmer fudd voice) all the fish I've caught lately that have any size show signs of being caught before, probably more than once I saw the ducks catching small baitfish but couldn't even get a touch I put on a small shrimp pattern and caught fish I would have caught alot more but I broke the hook off on the beach and just kept fishing it not knowing or checking until I missed the 10th one or so, I'll count the grabs its just cnr without any harm to the fish, I fooled them thats all that really matters.
    tony
  19. SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    I'LL add,
    if you get frustrated with only 5 hookups in 3.5 hours, don't take up steelheading!!:rofl:
    ohgodican'tbreathe

    good reading, guys.
    Bob
  20. jcnewbie Member

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    Dang it! If you'd have made that offer yesterday I'd have jumped on it in a heartbeat! I fished Doc's yesterday and caught my first coho in a long time - nice bright little 13-14 incher, right in front of the Game Warden too.....

    If you care to extend that offer again....woodja' PM me?

    Thanks in advance.....which ear didja' say isn't pierced yet.....??:D

    Jc:)