Yeah Jim I understand that and it has happened to me a few times...that being said I have never heard of, seen, or practised myself the art of "plunking" for steelhead and that's what some of these folks were doing. In the huge area of Thomas Eddy. Unless I'm clueless I don't associate "plunking" with steelhead fishing. That's just me. I'm heading out this Friday with the wife and we are going to hit the lower middle stretches of the Snoho.