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  1. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    Some hefty cutts spotted in MA10. This one was chasing bait when I casted to it, I thought for sure I was gonna have some coho fillets when it started doing a string of backflips. Then I got it near the beach and saw its profile. Textbook cutty look, not the silver little football I was expecting, I had the guy next to me verify it was a cutt before I grabbed the leader and snapped a shot of this beauty. So no dinner, but still a great catch. It fought harder than some of the pinks just not nearly as heavy on the lift but it put a decent bend in my 7. Just a reminder to make sure you have a salmon before beaching your catch, there are monsters lurking in the shallows. This one was pretty big, though I'm sure hes got buddies with a kype out there somewhere.
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    Man, that thing is huge!!!!! Nice Work Pat! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Looks more like a blackmouth, either way. Beautiful fish!
     
  4. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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  5. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    I guess I can see how you might say that based on the spotting pattern, but no worries I checked the mouth;)
    blackmouth
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    cutty (correction Coho)
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    Pat -
    While not the best picture to IDF the fish to my eye it is not a cutthroat and most likely a coho (aka dinner).

    Curt
     
  7. Pat Lat

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    I added one more pic curt. The last one is pretty definitive IMO
     
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    Looks like a coho to me, but very nice fish regardless.
     
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    A cute coho that escaped the dinner table.
     
  10. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    no way guys, I mean I hate to challenge some of our veterans of the salt, but there is way too much yellow on that fish and it was slender instead of girthy unlike a 20ish inch coho. Are you saying coho because of the lack of spots on the lower half? And Ive caught a few rezzies, the always seem to shed scales really easily. I didn't bother to look at the tail for 100% ID, but thats only because I've caught tons of cutties over the last few years of fishing the sound. Or maybe Ive been catching coho this whole time.:)
    Can I get a second here?
     
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    That's a coho.
     
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    Chameleon Cohoho.;)
    Jack

    PS Who cares. Really nice one, Pat. Next time look for the orange/red slash to be sure.
    You will have even better fish karma next time for having put it back.:)
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    Absolutely beautiful, whatever it is.
     
  14. Pat Lat

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    howabout this? cutty.jpg
     
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    Pat -
    First did the right thing; when in doubt release the fish - that is err on the side of the resource.

    However the second picture makes it very clear that the fish in question was indeed dinner - that is a coho. The longer fin rays on the leading edge of the anal fin cinches the coho call. Coastal cutthroat will almost always have spotting below the lateral line and again to my eye the over all coloration says it is not a cutthroat. Did you happen to notice whether its adipose fin was clipped?

    Something to remember is that this time of year there are lots of maturing coho including jacks that "resident" coho size that as maturing fish will have fixed scales and begin taking on coloration other than the more typical black over white that we normally associate with fish such as resident coho and other immature salmonids in deep water. Those maturing coho exhibit quite a range in size from a foot or so to well in excess of 30 inches. It is those jacks and smallish 3 year old fish (18 to 22 inches) that most often are confused with other species.

    curt
     
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    I've got to back Pat up here, that's a SRC all day long. The orange throat flashes are practically non existent in some of the bigger middle sounds fish that I have caught.

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    Could be a whitefish.
     
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    ATLANTIC SALMON
     
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    Just the saw the picture of the second fish.

    That fish is clearly a nice cutthroat. Notice the difference in the spotting pattern between the first and second fish and the differences in over all coloration. Notice that in the cutthroat both pectoral and ventral fins yellowish coloration. The coho will have more fin rays in their anal fin (13 or more) than the cutthroat (12 or less) which results in shorter appearing fin in the cutthroat versus that of the coho.

    Curt
     

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