Blue collar spey

Discussion in 'Spey Clave' started by Idaho steel, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. Idaho steel

    Idaho steel Active Member

    It is always interesting to me the number of high profile rods that fail to live up to the advertising and hyperbole, and how many wonderful sticks seem to fall through the cracks. I like to refer to a lot of them as "blue collar" rods since they tend to be lower price point rods, or labeled as "entry level" (whatever that means.)

    Far and away the most seriously underrated rod I've come across is my St. Croix Imperial 9140. A friend gave me this rod about a year ago claiming he had no use for something this long and heavy, and he didn't feel it was worth his time to try and sell. When I took a few lines down to the river to try on it I was absolutely blown away. Not only at it's power and performance, but by how smooth and easy it was. This rod is fairly fast and very powerful, with a reasonably heavy tip progressing into a stiff butt section. Despite being a powerhouse, it is extremely user friendly and will accommodate a wide range of line types and casting styles. I've been fishing it with a 10/11 Delta Spey, and it's proved to be an unparallelled combination for drilling holes in the wind with bigger flies. It is reasonably light in the hand and comfortable to fish all day. It has also handled the biggest fish the Clearwater has to offer with ease. About the only thing I don't like is the overly short bottom grip which feels very odd to me. Scandi and Skagit casters however will likely feel right at home. If you're looking for an affordable cannon, don't overlook these rods on the used market. They are hard to beat.

    So how many folks out there have a great performing stick or two that has been underrated or over looked by the spey casting community at large?
     
  2. Salmo_g

    Salmo_g Active Member

    The most overlooked value-priced rod that I have seen and used is the Forecast 11' 6" 6/7 sort of mini-Spey at that length. You can buy the kit for around $100, but you have to build it yourself. It's a great performing, fast action Spey rod, and it's a joy to use. I have several more expensive rods, but the Forecast is my go-to small stream Spey rod.

    Sg
     
  3. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

    I think the real deal here is how any given rod can be a dog in one guy's hand and a gem in anothers. It Really doesn't have anything to do with how much it costs and how good it should be, but rather its what works best in my hands. Sometimes what rocks in my hand is a $1000.00 rod, sometimes it's a $500.00 rod, and sometimes it's a 250.00 rod. This is why I have rods all across the price range from many different manufacturers. Ive casted that rod and I don't like it, not because it's a bad rod but rather because it doesnt suit me.
     
  4. Nailknot

    Nailknot Active Member

    Echo DH 7130, Scott ARC 1287...
     
  5. golfman65

    golfman65 Guest

    Blue collar or hidden gems...

    I've met too many guys on here who think a rods price should reflect how they can cast it...Like buying a Ferrari and bitching because it sucks in bumper to bumper traffic..."My shiny red car suck..it no fit my style..that cheap green ford keep right up with me in traffic...it boutique car"....

    So spending less might mean you have less expectations and more money to spend on lines that might actually fit the rod...Damn imagine that...High end or low end...no rod works without the proper line..but it sure feels better to spend less and find one that does I'd bet...

    Sometimes though, like the ferrarri...when you get it out of that bumper to bumper traffic..you'll appreciate what it can really do...Does that make sense?
     
  6. yuhina

    yuhina Tropical member

    well, In general I agree with your statement that there are many rods are user friendly and easy to cast.

    But please keep in mind, there are more than those elements I will be asking in a high end rod IF I am buying one. In addition, high end rod could go very SPECIALIZED which is not going to please EVERYONE. that is the main reason it is call specialized niche, regardless they are in general has higher grade of component.

    For instance, TCX 7126, some people love it, some people absolutely hate it... but if you are looking into this kind of light quick and crispy niche, this is the quick fiber your best money can get. You might say: who cares?! That's right, this is the fiber only for people who "cares"!

    I think Adam (Panhandle) has a good point. I can't agree with him more, my rods collection across high to low end, only depends if they have the right ELEMENTS I am looking for. Mark
    BTW, TFO Deer Creek 5/6 12'6 is a absolutely joy stick to cast... $349.95 what a deal! Great work Mr. Mike Kinney!
     
  7. Jergens

    Jergens AKA Joe Willauer

    iagree, if you only could have one rod, and were one a budget, the DH 7130 would be impossible to beat.
     
  8. Nooksack Mac

    Nooksack Mac Active Member

    Agree; if your vibes match a medium speed spey rod, the DH 7130 is a huge bargain, useable in all seasons, with most fly sizes (with a suitable line, of course).

    Idaho Steel: Yes, the St. Croix does have a too-thick, too short lower grip. Can't help the too-short aspect, but I filed and sanded down the lower grip of mine, which was my first spey rod.
     
  9. Wadecalvin

    Wadecalvin Member

    Redington RS4 7133 is a very nice stick
    Batson 1266 is a nice little scandi stick:thumb:
     
  10. Panhandle

    Panhandle Active Member

    No love for the TR? Amazing skagit rod IMO.
     
  11. Steelie Mike

    Steelie Mike Active Member

    Great rod, but I would take the older Classic or the Solo any day. I just never could get into the TR. I do miss my Decho 7130 also.
     
  12. Wadecalvin

    Wadecalvin Member

    I've heard rave reviews of the TR 6126- one of the few I've wanted to try that I have not. Also i had the 7wt and found it to be a very nice rod.
     
  13. Ian Broadie

    Ian Broadie Flyfishing is so "Metal"

    The TFO Deer Creek 7130 and Diawa 8120 are two of my favorite "Blue Collar" rods.
     
  14. I have the same St Croix rod. I fished it for a long time and caught many fish with it but I don't use it much any more. Like has been stated by other folks here each rod will match or not match the feel you look for in a rod. Price is not the determining factor. There are so many more choices today than when I started, it is mind boggling. A feel and price point for all.
     
  15. Jim Kerr

    Jim Kerr Active Member

    Decho 7130 would be a great rod at twice the price.
     
  16. Agreed- I too miss my DH 7130, sniff sniff
     
  17. Charles Sullivan

    Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

    I have the forescast 6/7. Paired with a medalist. Pretty sweet for under $150.00 total.

    Go Sox,
    cds
     
  18. almostacatch

    almostacatch Let it Angle on the Dangle

    The TR is my absolute favorite Blue Collar spey stick. It a dry line and a sink tip slinger! I liked my 7130 so much. I had to get a 6126 both of them amaze me every time I take them out.
     
  19. firepilot

    firepilot New Member

    I like my TR6126 for the Sandy and now the Grande Ronde. I also like my Deer Creek 8/9 13'6 which was my first Spey rod. Set it up with a scandi line for the Clearwater. Both bought used here or Spey Pages, I think $200 or so for the TR and $225 for the TFO. I haven't really tried any of the more expensive rods yet. Waiting till can afford it, but rather save for a drift boat of raft.
     
  20. Wadecalvin

    Wadecalvin Member

    Are the actions of the 7 weight and 6 weight similar to one another?