Building a Spey Rod?

Discussion in 'Rod Building' started by Warren Perry, Mar 6, 2005.

  1. I am thinking of jumping off into the world of spey rod fishing and I have the opportunity to buy an inexpensive rod kit (internet special at H&H). Here is my question:

    How much different is it to build a 2 hander than a 1 handed rod?

    I assume that for the most part it is the same but there must be some nuances (2 handles, different guide spacing etc.)

    I have built 3 one handed rods so I think I could do this but I want see if there are any special considerations before I order the kit.

    Any infois greatly appreciated.

    Warren
     
  2. Warren,

    Aside from the considerations you mentioned, I can't think of any. I guess I shouldn't have let you test cast that spey of mine on the Nisqually, now your hooked.

    If you need reamers for sizing the cork, let me know. I have three different sizes that should meet your needs.

    By the way, Vickie got her first spey rod at the Bellevue show. Nice little 6 wgt two hander made by Elkhorn. 60 to 70 foot casts are easy for her. I almost like it better than my TFO 6 wgt two hander.

    What weight rod are you building?

    REE
     
  3. Hi Warren,
    Should be a piece of cake for you. Are you using preformed handles or making your own?
    Either way, Angler's Workshop has a large selection of spey handles and cork.

    Good luck!

    Don
     
  4. Ron

    Thanks I might ask to borrow them. I am thinking about building the 7/8 weight from H and H (the kit is only $72.36)

    Don,

    I will by the whole kit from Hook and Hackle. The handles will come pre made. The kits are on sale for between 70 and 90 dollars depending on the rod length and weight.

    Warren
     
  5. I finally finished my spey rod, now I just need to learn how to cast it....

    Warren
     
  6. Warren,
    This rod looks great! Looks like you've wrapped rods before.
    What are the specs?

    Don
     
  7. Warren,

    That rod looks great! When are we gonna test drive that puppy?

    REE
     
  8. Don

    Blank is a 12' 6" 7/8 Forecast Spey 4 piece. It is a kit I ordered from Hook and Hackle. The price was right at about $75.00 shipped. The blank is blue with blue raps.

    I used the following guide spacing (based loosely on the Sage 8126-3 2-H) 1st - 7 1/8; 2nd - 15 4/16; 3rd - 24 6/16;4th - 34 7/16; 5th - 45 9/16; 6th - 57 11/16; 7th - 70 12/16; 8th - 84 14/16; 9th 99 15/16; 10th - 116.

    It is a no frills rod but will get me into spey rodding at the lowest possible cost.

    Waren
     
  9. I just finished the 11'6" 6wt Forecast Spey. I took it out to the Vedder last week and lost my biggest steelhead of the Winter season. I love this little rod. I can hardly wait to fish it with a dry line for steelhead and Thompson trout. I used the guide spacings supplied by Bill Batson.
     
  10. SpeyRodBeBop,

    Did you get your spacing off Batson's website or from Bill himself. I have a 13' RX8 I bought a while back and will likely build this spring for summer/winter steelhead. I haven't seen that much advice on spey rod spacing and the guides themselves (although haven't looked too intently either).

    Do people use ceramics for spey rods? Same question worded a different way - do you "shoot" line with spey rod (shows you what I know about spey casting)?

    I just got my Forecast blue alconite ceramic guides for my 9' 6" 5 wt. RX8 last night and can't wait to get this project underway.

    Warren - that is a nice looking rod.

    Jim F.
     
  11. I got the spacings from Bill. The list also gave the guide sizes. I think he has since put them on his web site. Most spey rods use ceramics for the stripping and second guide and good quality snakes for the rest. I think using ceramics for the lot would undully affect the rod weight. You will be shooting line with the spey rod. I am now up to six speys and this little forecast is as good as any. I am trying to convice Bill that there is a market out there for fifteen and sixteen footers--I want a good Thompson rod.
     
  12. Jim

    Thanks,

    you might also try the sage website for an estimate on guide spacing. With each of their blanks they have a guide spacing chart that should get you in the ball park.

    Warren
     
  13. I do not know that they have posted a spacing chart. I have built up both the 11' 6' and 12' 6' rod. They are both pocket rockets !!. As is my style I used short front and rear grip on both rods. The 11.5 likes floaters in the 460 to 560 grain range and it will do amazing things with Skagit style short bellies (Thanks Bert K). The 12.5 will take a floater of at least 550. I was throwing a Hardy Mach One 10/11 (625 grains) with no problem. These are strong rods. The 12.5 also does well with heavy short head sytems. Try a 550 grain Rio Skagit line and 9 or 10 wt tips. This is the spacing info I have . I CAN NOT verify that the data for the 13 and 14 footers is optimum. I went back to Batson 3 times to get a good setup for the 12.5, the 11.5 data was correct the first time. I alo used one size larger snakes than is suggested and I used single foot guides on the tip section :cool:

    Spey Rod / Blank Guide Spacing / Size Chart
    (all spacing is in inches from tip cumulative )

    Model
    F1116/7 - 4
    4 - 9 - 15.25 - 22.75 - 31.5 - 41.75 - 53.5 - 66.875 - 80.5 - 100. (Spacing)
    3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 10 - 12 - 16 (suggessted guide sizes ) (Snake & UD )

    F1267/8 - 4
    4.5 - 10 - 17 - 26 - 36 -47 - 59 - 73 - 90 -110. (Spacing)
    3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 5 -12 -16 -20 (suggessted guide sizes ) (Snake & UD )


    F1308/9 - 4
    5 - 11 - 19 - 28 - 39 - 51 - 64 - 78 - 96 - 116 (Spacing)
    4 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 12 - 16 - 20 (suggessted guide sizes ) (Snake & UD )

    F1409/10 - 4
    6.25 - 14.625 - 24.125 - 36.1875 - 49 - 64 - 81.25 - 97 - 112.875 - 132.625. (Spacing)
    4 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 12 - 16 - 20 (suggessted guide sizes )(Snake & UD )

    Rich
     

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