I'm mainly writing this for general purposes in case someone searches this may come up and inform them. And maybe this is for some of you who are shameless in your actions and just enjoy using people and resources without caring for anyone but your selfish self! I was at the place last weekend and just decided to stop by on my way to the Dewatto river to check the place out and to ask some questions about the manor and the lake. Well I learned allot but the one think I learned and want to rant about is the fact that pretty much hardly anybody pays the donation fee!! If you do you are one of the few! Out of 3000 users the man only picks up about $1000 of which one individual pays $500 out of the kindness of his heart! This leaves about 2999 people for the year and about $500 between those people. WTH? This guys pays out of his own pocket for all the fish in there! The lake would not have fish if it wasn't stocked by him, the fish would eventually be eaten by the otters and beavers and musk rats etc. The fish are in there for us, put there by the owner so we can have a fly fishing only lake. How kind is that? Rather than appreciate the blessing and make a contribution this guy pretty much gets raped by his own fellow fly fishers? What's wrong with this? I asked him what a mi imum donation would be? He said $5 bucks! Now that is a killer deal to fish a FF only lake with monster Trout in it. If you don't have the money stay home! Don't be a cheap skate and use the resource if you can't support it. Hit the salt or something. Anyhow, the man is struggling (like all of us, or at least some of us). The economy has hit him hard, so be a real man and pay your donation, yes that pretty much means just pay the heck up if you are going to fish there! Almost makes me want to be the body guard there to kick some abusers out! Ok done now. Point is, stop using people, don't be a jerk!