Carp?

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  1. SpeyrodMike

    SpeyrodMike Member

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    What are some good tactics for carp? I found a small shallow lake where carp were cruising around. Not really sure how to prepare myself for them though? Any tips would be much appreciated. You can PM me to if you don't want to expose the secrets to everybody.(LOL)
     
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    pm on its way shortly
     
  3. wrench

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    There is an awesome article on this site written by one of carp fly fishing's most talented, creative, successful --- and modest---- proponents. Welcome to the sickness,
    Keith
     
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    if you have a lot of fish to choose from, dont waste your time casting to jumping or cruising fish. although you can get the cruisers to bite, most wont. target the actively feedinig fish. Everything you need to know is written in that article as previousy mentioned. Zen's Yellow CCC is a sick carp fly.
     
  5. SpeyrodMike

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    I just went this evening and hooked a couple that took me in my backing. I guess in a way i decided to long release them.(LOL) Oh well..... Thanks to the advice of Zen with the fly of choice i have a new fishery to explore. Thanks alot Zen.
     
  6. Zen Piscator

    Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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    Read the carp article

    the author is the patron saint of everything fly fishing, really the jesus figure of our sport. :rofl:

    Seriously though, wrench tought me a ton of what i know.

    Peace,
    Andy
     
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    If you use one of your spey rods you wont' even have to cast. You can just dangle the fly in front of 'em.
    WT
     
  8. SpeyrodMike

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    The thing about where i'm fishing is i don't think the water gets really clear. It's a dirty brown color and i couldn't actually see the fish in the shallows but i could see them finning. What is the strike going to feel like or will i not feel anything at all?
     
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    you likely wont feel anything at all. You anticipate when the fish is right where the fly would be, then slowly pull back, if you feel resistance set the hook, fish on!
     
  10. Zen Piscator

    Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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    Mike,
    No offense but I find it very rare for anyone to ldr mouth hooked carp, its actualy only happend once to me. You may be late on your hook sets and be accedentaly foul hooking the fish. Try to maintain a tight line so u can feel the fish pick up the fly.
     
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    Landed 3 on top last Saturday with sz 12 Royal Wulf from North Sterling Reservoir in Colorado. Two were from near surface meadering schools. One was a feeding loner. It appeared to be looking for food on the surface as it seemed rather agitated and turned quickly towards the fly once it spoted it. It was totally awsome to see them come up, stick their mouth up to the fly and slurp it in. One of them missed the first time, and came back and got it the second time. They were actually trying to eat it! They were all hooked somewhat deep, had to use my Leatherman to get the fly out. Good thing they don't have sharp teeth. I tried a nymph for a while, nad had one come up and sucked in my bright orange indicator!
     
  12. Teeg Stouffer

    Teeg Stouffer Fish Recycler

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    Cottonwood season is just ending, at least at my house. On a lake I was on this past weekend there was still a lot in the air and on the water. If you can find an area with cottonwoods on the water, you can often find carp clooping them down. If there isn't too great an abundance of "naturals," or if you can predict his path, you can trick the carp with a pretty simple cottonwood fly.

    Same can be said for mulberries.

    I have seen an episode of some flyfishing show where they nymphed for cruising carp in muddy water using typical trout flies - maybe size 10, so a little large - but stuff like BH PT or Hare's Ears - under an indicator. So that could work, but I haven't ever gotten one that way.

    I have seen them aggressively chase a nymph though, so you can get all different behavior out of them at different times. Heck, I've caught them on steadily reeled jigs before, so it wouldn't be impossible to pick one up on a streamer.
     
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    nevermind. The article answered all my questions..
     
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    someone should invent a "strike indicater fly". mike w
     
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    We're there just the other night and they were exploding on top but we couldn't figure out what they were eating. there was cotton on the water. What do you think they were eating.
     
  16. Zen Piscator

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    Mike, if you spend some time checking out that book i told you about or reading on the net about carp through a simple google search you will answer all of your questions easily.

    Those jumping fish were likely spawning, as this is normal behavoir. Unlike trout carp are usually not interested in feeding for any reason while spawning.

    Peace,
    Andy
     
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    Andy is mostly right. The whole truth is that some of those carps will roll and jump all summer long. They're happy fish, stay away from them and look for the tailers.
    WT
     
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    The problem with that is it is really a dirty brown and you can't see them. My friend did catch one about 5 pounds. It nearly took the rod out of his hand. I guess it's going to take some more experience. During the day it was absolutely dead. This lake is not really deep either. I could take the oar from my potoon and touch the bottom with it. I know some of the areas where they congregate but haven't figured out how to catch them. Next time i go i'll take some photos so people can see what kind of conditions this place has. I know its got potential to be very good. I've seen some carp that had to be close to 10 pounds in there.
     
  19. Zen Piscator

    Zen Piscator Supporting wild steelhead, gravel to gravel.

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    Mike,
    Off color water can be hard, I would recomend for a beginning fisherman to move to clear water as to get a bit better view of them.

    Seeing how carp respond to flies is an inportant part of learning how to fish for them.

    Btw, have you read the article on this site about carp? It covers a bunch of stuff.

    Peace,
    Andy
     
  20. Teeg Stouffer

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    To luv2fly2's point about the indicator fly --

    An Orvis catalog / newspaper thing I got a while back suggested that the indicator fly was "the secret fly of guides in montana." While I found that ridiculous, it did finally prompt me to tie up some big orange beetles, because I've had hit fish hit my indicator enough times to count.

    So, I have these big (size 10 or so) orange foam flies in my box, but when I go to set up a dry / dropper, I somehow always find something else I'd rather have as my top fly...
     

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