Casting Distances: Every Caveman Needs a Chance to Beat His Chest

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Jake L, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Well, at my age, "make-up sex" ain't on the menu . . . reckon I'll go tie flies . . .
  2. HauntedByWaters Active Member

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    BRRRRAAAAAEEEE *beats chest*

    MAAAAAA MOOOO GRRRRRRRRRR *clubs ground*

    AAARRRGGHHHHH UUUUNNNN NAAAARRRRR!!!!!!! *points to stick*

    UUUURRRRRGGHHH AAARRRRR NUUURRRRRRRRR *ties end of vine to stick*

    URRRRR NAAAAA GOOOOOOOOO *casts 175'*

    *and the rest is history....or is it?*
  3. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Jason ~

    You forgot the part about "marking your territory" and impaling a large bird on a thorn fortuitously growing at the end of said vine Any hominid knows you don't cast a bare leader. Other than that, not bad at all . . . have you heard that they're coming out with a new line of low-vis, high-stretch, UV-resistant vines next year?

    j.
  4. Abomb Active Member

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    I thought about other options but they were fighting like they were lovers so it just made sense.
  5. Abomb Active Member

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    It's called Viagra. You're welcome.
  6. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Thanks for the consideration, but I'm quite content as a bachelor, relish thinking with "the big head," and fiercely guard my current state of answering to no one. Feel free to continue to think with whichever head you feel is appropriate at the time in your particular case, however. Since we're so freely offering advice, based on your asinine comment, the prefix of your chosen screen name may be the wrong choice, although the one I'd be inclined to suggest also consists of four letters . . .
  7. Porter Active Member

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    That explains the desire for a 2-piece. Thanks :thumb:
  8. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    You're welcome (I think).
  9. Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    By my definition yes we are all incomplete anglers in some way. I am and like Richard said earlier, getting better in any and every aspect of the game is part of the fun, no matter how frustrating it can be. There is always something new to learn or to perfect or to try in fly-fishing. I have no trouble realizing that, and that is one of the many things I love about the sport. Chad, you argue just to argue, right or wrong and get caught doing it constantly. By the way, I'll be home next month for a week or two. Let's go fishing and see if you can fish half as well as you can post bullshit or start internet pillow fights 30 times a day. Not a challenge, just a guy who loves fly-fishing inviting out a computer jockey for a day of fun. Any rod weight, any species, any water. I'll drive the sled, (if you want to chase summer-runs) and make the lunches. The beer will be cold. Leave your keyboard and computer at home. That's a genuine invite. Coach
  10. Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    Koja, as a humble Montana country boy, you should know as well as anybody that half assed does not have to be a slight or a negative things. It's just that, incomplete, not done all the way, needing finishing touches, ect, "half assed". Coach Duff (Raised by a humble Washington country boy)
    Tight lines
  11. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Coach, I do love to read your posts, and you definately are one of the better characters here. But the reality is, you need to re-read and comprehend what the hell I wrote :) For whatever reason the sematic nuiance was lost on you.

    Anyhoo, I just got done "practicing" tonite. Hit 95' and 97' on back to back casts with an average of around 85. Yes, that was by the tape too and not by just "guessing". So why you took what I said for not being in favor of practice is beyond me. I do it all the time and at any opportunity I get...
  12. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Geez coach, if you're willing to do that, can I get in on that gravy boat??? :) :) :) I wanna hit up some solid bluegill action in Lake Steilicom, then maybe beat up some smolt in the Narrows. :)
  13. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    Coach Duff,

    No hard feelings, but "half-assed" has always carried a derogatory connotation in my book. You are absolutely correct regarding learning, practicing, and improving one's ability . . . I'd much rather use the terms "more proficient/less proficient, however. Tight lines back at you, Sir.
  14. Coach Duff Banned or Parked

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    James, I was thinking a stimulating day of flounder at Golden Gardens or maybe a action packed day of bullheads in the Fremont canal.:D Are you in? Duffer
    PS For a third option I offer you a stimulating day of swinging for goldfish at Petco. We will not need the boat for that one, but when our arms get tired from dropping flies into the aquarium tanks, we can set up a shock fence and take turns running into it. Who needs steelhead when you can have a day like that James? See you soon. Duff
    96 feet puts you in a position to comfortably catch just about anything that swims in any conditions. That's big time casting distance wise. Bravo. Now hit 100 tomorrow night!
  15. Jim Speaker Active Member

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    Wow, Coach! So if I start acting super-argumentive and piss you off will you take me fishin' too? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. :D
  16. seanengman Trout have no politics

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    I Hate you Coach!

    P.S. I really don't hate you I just wanna get some cold beer and have a boat jockey.
  17. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Yeah, but I still have to do it in wind, on a boat deck that's rocking, with running line in my teeth and using my off hand.... Saw a friend of mine recently. He told me of a guide down in Belize that could crack off 120' (8wt rod) with either hand and land it in a friggin rain barrel.
  18. Denny Active Member

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    Dude! Nice! With a 9 weight? ;)

    By the way, "Sematic nuiance"? what the heck is that? Couldn't reference either of those words in the dictionary. :)

    James, you are an example of Coach's (and mine) contention. You practice your casting, and your casting is getting better. Yes or no? Why do you practice casting? I'm sure a huge part of it is because you like it, but I bet an equally large part is because you want to improve your fly fishing skills.

    chadk and Coach are both right, but just coming from different directions.

    chadk is trying to support those folks who are satisfied with status quo and don't feel they need to change their casting. His contention; if they're happy and don't feel a need to change, so be it. On a personal basis, this attitude doesn't work for me, but it does for some folks. So, if they're happy with their current abilities . . . to each their own.

    A definition of the word 'coach' is "tutor: somebody who instructs someone in a particular subject". A coach attempts to provide instruction and better someone's skills. Coach Duff, whether consciously or subconsciously, locks and loads in to that instruction and teaching mode. And, every coach has their own approach and style to instruction, and Coach Duff definitely has his own style.

    Coach and I both bring up points about the merits of learning to distance cast because the student learns about all aspects of the cast, and it will help all facets of their casting. It's not necessarily that they can or can't cast for distance, it's just the point of trying to improve. Heck even if the fly fisher never really gets to be a proficient distance caster, they'll learn so much about casting and should improve their casting in general. They'll probably also discover the merits of practicing.

    Learning to cast for distance, whether a person becomes skilled at distance casting, will improve their casting. And, if a person is interested in adding to or improving their fly fishing skills, this is something that should be one of the top items on the list. In my opinion . . . :ray1:
  19. James Mello Inventor of the "closed eye conjecture"

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    Correct to a certain extent. I'm mostly practicing single handers to get more proficient with loop control so I can apply the things I learned to 2 handed casting of long belly lines :) In that case it's about learning to cast well enough to fish a niche river system I want to go to in 2 years time (Thompson or Skeena).....
  20. knothead Banned or Parked

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    No, "arrogant (actually, "arrogance," if I may take liberty to correct) is presuming that those who do not hold YOUR particular values/abilities in high esteem to be somehow "inferior" to your personal vision of a competent fly fisherman/woman . . .[/QUOTE]


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