Clouser Critique

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  1. Big E

    Big E Moderator Staff Member

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    So I'm trying to get my boxes filled for next year and am tying up a bunch of clousers. Having never have tied clousers for the salt, I was wondering if you guys could critique my attempt. I am particularly interested in your thoughts about the length and sparsity.

    Also, how many of you find that epoxy is warranted?

    Recipe:

    #6 Tiemco 5263
    White thread
    White bucktail
    Pearl Krystal Flash
    Yellow bucktail
    Dumbell Eyes
    UV Knot Sense
     

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  2. Kevin Rudzinski

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    Proportions are good, its a nice tie. It will catch fish. And you don't need epoxy, UV will work just fine. My only question is why aren't you using a saltwater hook?
     
  3. Jake Bannon

    Jake Bannon nymphs for steelhead....

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    That is one neatly tied clouser, it would be a shame if it smacked rocks a few times.:D Only thing I would suggest changing in the hook, saltwater hooks are the only way to go for clousers.
     
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    Except for the hook, nothing wrong with that fly that I see. It will definitely catch fish.

    However, you've tied it jig-style--that is with the lead eyes forward. It's my understanding that the original was tied with the eyes further back on the shank. That produced a gliding motion on the retrieve rather than a jigging (up-and-down) motion. I tie both although I think the jigging elicits more strikes from salmon.
     
  5. chattmr

    chattmr has never caught a steelhead... (its sad, I know)

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    I agree, this is very tidy and precise tie. You obviously have some skills. I agree with the other folks about the hook selection. Personally, I would look for bucktail with a little more kink to it. You end up with a more translucent look. However, that is just a matter of preference...

    You might also experiment with synthetics. Here's my latest effort on a synthetic clouser:

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  6. Big E

    Big E Moderator Staff Member

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    What hook model # and online purchase place do you recommend? I've looked at all my regular places but they just have stainless standard length. I would think the clouser would warrant a 2x or 3x long eh?
     
  7. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Did you use the loon mini curing light and if so what are your impressions?

    Daryle
     
  8. Phil Struck

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    Nice tie. I tend to favor a little more white than yours, but that is just a personal preference. For SRC, I like to use a very sparse size 8. For coho, usually size 6 or 4 and about the same as yours. White and olive/tan have with a touch of flash have been best for me. Pink and white has also been good on occassion. You can see the orginator tie it at:

    http://www.flyfisherman.com/ftb/bobclouser/index.html

    I see you are soon to be a Kitsap Peninsula resident. Welcome! The Kitsap Penisula is a great place if you enjoy fishing salt from the beach.
     
  9. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    chattmr has never caught a steelhead... (its sad, I know)

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    Most people use hooks with regular-length shanks. It is not textbook, but I like the Gamikatsu "Stinger" line of hooks for my clousers. Straight eye, wide gap, heavy enough but not too heavy.
     
  11. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Did you get my original ? about the light
     
  12. Denny

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    I agree with all of your comments. iagree Not quite so much on the hook, because the initial clousers were for smallmouth, and to that extent didn't need saltwater-resistant hooks. I use some clousers for freshwater work, and tie some of them on bronze hooks.

    I believe there is a video on youtube that has Bob Clouser tying, what else, the clouser minnow. It's worth watching for tips.
     
  13. Big E

    Big E Moderator Staff Member

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    Hello Daryle,

    I used the power light, not the mini. It works good, about 20 - 30 seconds to cure. Dunno how it compares to the Tuffleye though.
     

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