Clouser critique?

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  1. Sawyer

    Sawyer Active Member

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    Tied up some Clouser's for Coho, what do you guys think of the Pink, Turquoise and Chartreuse one?

    And how about the others, anything I should change when i'm tying in the future?

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  2. Randall Clark

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    looks good to my untrained eye, but then again, I'm not a fish. I'd say let the fish tell you.
     
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    Randall hit it right on, but one thing they keep telling me is to make your stinger hook stick out past the end of the fly. Nice looking tye though.
     
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    Joepa Joe from PA

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    Looks fine to me, but one thing to consider would be to have smaller versions of that just in case. Last week out at Neah, the coho where on the small side (most in the 3-4 lb range) and small, sparse clousers were the ticket.
     
  5. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    longer flash. i have found flashtails to be a strike trigger, especially offshore. i say that about most clousers i see though. ;) i also like a softer flash like polarflash compared to krystal flash.

    nice tie though.
     
  6. Sawyer

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    Sweet, thanks for the tips guys!

    Bagman, I was actually curious about that last night when I was tying them, thanks.

    Joepa, good to know. I was a bit worried about bulk on these but I guess time will tell.

    Chris, i did run the flash long but not past the bucktail, I'll try that.
     
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    Don't know about Coho, but the peacock bass would just love that thing. :)
     
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  8. mtskibum16

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    That fly will catch coho for sure. A few of the things pointed out by others would be improvements in my eyes (longer flash mainly). There are also a few things you could do to improve durability. See if you can dig up some clouser examples from Stonefish for that.
     
  9. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Stop Killing Wild Steelhead!

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    I tie them on Orvis 9034 or Daiichi 2546 hooks, #4 and #6. Here are a few from last season. for sea-run Cutthroat and Coho salmon. Tied sparse and fine, they have plenty of action, and they have a glow to them as so much light can pass through them underwater. I like to paint the Clouser dumbell weight "eyes" with black laquer, and then top coat them with clear finish. Acrylics will work too. http://olympicpeninsulaflyfishing.blogspot.com


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  10. Sawyer

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    As far as durability goes, I wrapped and glued the shizz out of the barbells and glues about every bit of thread I could see with Super glue or Hard As Nails


    Will definitely be making some more that are sparse with longer flash, thanks guys!
     
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    mtskibum16 Active Member

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    Yeah, I think that's the key to why sparse flies work so well - good transparency! I know everyone has their own material preference, but that is one of the many reasons I tend to like synthetics over bucktail as I feel they allow more light to pass throught he fly. That said, in that early morning hour, a more solid body might be better as it may provide more contrast (thus better visibility to the fish) in the low light conditions. I've seen some nice ties that do a good job combining natural and synthetics for a good looking fly.
     
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    Some tasty looking flies Bob! Thanks for the reply and info.
     
  13. holtad

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    Good lookin flys mtskibum16!

    When i see these I assume the hooks mentioned (Orvis 9034/Daiichi) are the trailing hook. What are you using for the front eye & shank portion? Are guys buying something specific for that or just snipping the bend off something cheaper?
     
  14. Sawyer

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    The way I tied my flies, I used Mustad #1 3407DT as a sacrificial shank and for the trailer I used Gamakatsu #2 Octopus hooks attached with Hairline dubbin Senyo's intruder traller hook wire

    But you can also buy a good quality hook to tie onto with your trailer wire and leave the hook, so you have 2 hooks

    Hope that's helpful

    Edit: I bought 100 pack for $12.99, you only save like 1¢ per hook, but you you won't have to buy hooks for awhile
     
  15. golfman44

    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    Mustad 3407 on eBay 25 pack for 3 bucks

    Your fly looks nice.
     
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    Oh c'mon now. Mustads work just fine as a shank. What's to fail there?
     
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    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    To be fair my living room has a few dozen hook points on the carpet that flew somewhere after cutting them. Banking on the girlfriends feet finding them for me.
     
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    porterHause Just call me Jon

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    This right here. I'd make your future ties more sparse.

    SOP, you're wasting some serious cash if you're using expensive hooks for clouser heads. I like the 34007's as they are stainless steel. They seem to have disappeared from stores, so my most recent batch was tied on Umpqua U401s...the cheap version of tiemco 811s.
     
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  19. Matt Baerwalde

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    Matt Baerwalde said:
    Oh c'mon now. Mustads work just fine as a shank. What's to fail there?​
    Now, I suppose the hook eye could open up. That has never happened to me. Has that ever happened to anyone here?

    When I need shanks I buy whatever is on clearance...bait hooks, whatever.
     
  20. Sawyer

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    I was told by one of the guys at GHFS that sometimes the hook eyes on the Mustads won't be closed all the way and you'll tie on, make your cast a bye bye fly!
    So check the eye of the hook before you put em in your box.


    My thoughts exactly, I couldn't bring myself to cut up anymore daiichi hooks at $7.00 for 25