I notice the people who support the "school of hard knocks" have all graduated. Why would you want to force other people to learn things the hard way? That is not generous and not in the spirit of fly fishing as advocated by most members of thios site. And before anyone starts in on me personally I am 57 years old and nobody took me fishing as a kid. I learned it the hard way from bait fishing up to flies, and while most of it was fun it would have been more fun with some helpful advice and guidance along the way. That's why I come to this site.