Commercializiing Lenice

Discussion in 'Stillwater' started by Dale Dennis, May 14, 2009.

  1. dp ~El Pescador

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    two more
  2. skyrise Active Member

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    this can only spell doom for those lakes. when has development ever made fishing better?
    i go fishing to get away from all development around us.
    one thing to keep i in mind. can they make any money to stay in buisness? remember the fishing there is in a short time frame. no one goes there in the winter.
    still bad though.
  3. Trout Master Active Member

    I think that it will help keep the vandals away, you will still have to walk to the lakes etc. They cant make new roads etc.
  4. Tom Bowden Active Member

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    Black Diamond, WA
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    As a prior victim of parking lot vandalism at Lenice, I'd like to see additional security. Development may also discourage the poaching that goes on.

    Tom
  5. KerryS Ignored Member

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    Some fairly serious equipment. Who ever is doing this has spent a considerable amount of money just with the iron sitting there. Nothing a construction company hates more than to have heavy equipment idle.
  6. DimeBrite MA-9 Beach Stalker

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    Seeing development around Lenice would be a major bummer. I caught my first fish in Washington out there a few years back. It's a great place to get some east side sun in March/April.
  7. tomc Member

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    Deleted thrice
    Tom C.
  8. Dale Dennis Formally Double-D

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    I have fished this lake sense the early 60’s and have seen it grow in popularity over the years and have come to realize that with the ever growing community of fly fishers that Lenice would be popular and busy at times. Because of its lack of amenities and remoteness it gives you a sense of wilderness and serenity which we lack in so many places anymore, one of reasons I keep coming back.
    Vandals or not, to commercialize Lenice will certainly bring even more people to this pristine area, which to me will down grade the quality of a fly fishing experience that it now has.
  9. Jerry Arlington Member

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    Well.....it is his land. I guess you guys could have bought that up, paid taxes on it, and kept it pristine for the rest of us.

    I fished the lake when there were no cattails, or Russian olive trees, when you could pull a boat from Lenice to Mary, to Bobby to Nunnely if you wanted to, nothing but some sage brush and rocks on the banks.

    I don't like it but it is his land and I don't like the state or other people telling me what I can do and not do on my place. I don't think most of you guys would, unless you voted for Obama then you should expect it.

    I have been vandalized and robbed at Lenice, maybe it will help that. It will never be like it was.
  10. Trashfisher Member

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    There are reasons for permitting processes and laws about what you can do with/on the land you own. If people had free reign over their property (like all of you who voted for Ron Paul would hope for) then your neighbor could put in a freelance garbage dump in their backyard so you could smell it every hot day and you could do nothing about it. What you do with your land affects others and if any one could develop up to the shoreline of every lake or stream stream then think about what that would do for access.
  11. Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    Although I would not like to see a "development", the private property owner should be able to do anything that is legal and can be permitted with their property. I can only imagine where this discussion would go if the owner posted the property and forced the sand campers into the parking lot. I have met the owner a couple of times and he is a decent person.

    Just my $.02....

    MB
  12. Jeremy Floyd fly fishing my way through life

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    Ouch!

    That is the first red tag I have ever seen before in 12 years of building.
  13. Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    JF - You are one of the good guys that follow the rules, which = no Red Tag for you.....!
  14. dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Well said and exactly right.
  15. Jerry Arlington Member

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    typical over reaction from this board.
  16. Keith Hixson Active Member

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    Red Tag at the Beginning of a Project. Very, very unusual. My guess is they didn't do the environmental studies. After all it is in a wetland area. Usually red tags come during construction.

    Keith
  17. Gary Thompson dirty dog

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    No permits, no EIS,= RED TAG
  18. East Fork Active Member

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    There you go again - letting logic get in the way of a good rant.
  19. dp ~El Pescador

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    if this guy gets his way and starts building, can you imagine Larry's big tent in front of this development next spring? Heck, I think Larry's back entrance would be right on this guys paved parking lot. Think of the stench from the outhouse that would drift to this guys entrance as well when the wnds are just right.

    I see potential confrontations in the future.